Mastercraft81SnS Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Is there a difference between RTP and double boot or is it a personal preference? What one do you prefer and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Completely personal. I like double boot but have moved to R-style which is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopowpow Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I got tired of my foot slipping out of the rear toe plate. Plus a back boot supports my trashed ankle better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 I spent one season on double boot. Then switched to RTP the following season and this morning I switched back to double boot which is where I think I'll stay. My foot started slipping out of RTP as my skiing improved plus I get overall better support with double boot. But a RTP is just so much more comfortable and convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller fu_man Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 I got this stuff and stuck it on the base of the RTP....no more slipping. Cut to fit. Learned that from watching one of Andy's videos on ski set-up. http://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-6-in-x-2-ft-Safety-Walk-Step-and-Reflective-Tread-Tape-7768NA/100391699 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ralph Lee Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Most serious skiers will need to customize their RTP to get the right support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Toe plate is nice for free motion, easier starts, but I prefer having both feet locked in for prevention of knee damage on bad falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bookm_dano Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 But still not sure....novice class skier with 40 years on open water and rtp....switched to double boots a year ago...couldn't cut offside for crap...got used to it finally but just switched back to rtp. Feels totally awkward again. Seems like what you've gotten used to will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Toe plate good enough for the GOAT Andy Mapple...good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonicus Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Gave up double boot in 1988, havent looked back since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Granted, I'm no pro - but an rtp with a decent contoured footbed on it holds me fine. (radar) Can't stand the ones that are just a flat piece of padding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wayne Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Tried both but stuck with double boots. Having equal foot retention so seemed to be the safer choice but I think it's personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 I use a Dakine kite board foot strap as a heal piece to hold my foot in and keep it from slipping out. I have been using it for about 6 seasons. To date is has been a life (ok maybe season) saver for me. You have to get up with two feet in though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller david_ski Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 I have had hard shell double boots for the last 11+ years and double rubber boots for at least 20 years before that. This year I switched to a R-style rear and I am liking it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 I have been in a RTP for 40 years. I don't find my foot slips at all and it works fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Intheday Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 RTP can't beach start in dual boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted August 30, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think it's pure personal preference. I encountered some dangerous-seeming situations with my foot coming out about 20 years ago, and have been dual-boot ever since. With the OB4 binding technology allowing release in rotation, the door is reopened to me using RTP or "R" style someday, but at the moment I have no plans to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think it's preference. I like that it feels really easy on the body to get out of the water and the freedom of movement on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 For me better control and feels safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deke Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Hip problems forced me to go back to a toe plate after using various double boot setups for many years. The driving factor was really just getting up which is much easier in the toe plate. I then discovered I have no issues with control, slippage, etc. so there. Absolutely a personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lovell Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 Double boot keeps my rear heel down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slalom frog Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 Never have tried anything but a RTP. I use a basic Wiley's and ski just fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Nando Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 Skied double boots forever; switched to R-Style last year and appreciate the greater freedom of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 Double boot. I have been using one since 1980 and though I can ski with a RTP, it feels weird and my heel tends to move around. I feel more secure with a rear boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 RTP for convenience and comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allycat Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 RTP for me have not tryed double boots and am happy with the rtp anyway especially since i went radar my foot seems to stay in it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm surprised. I would have thought the double boots percentage would be much higher than the RTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PatM Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 Used the double boot since I was 16 (now 48). I switched to the R-style at the beginning of last year with out problem. I love it, same control I got from the double boot with the release of a kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 I have used double boots since I was 14. I moved to the R-style this summer and love it. I've been running it looser and looser. Bought an ARTP last week and rode it yesterday. It seriously took me 3 tries to get out of the water. It's a different animal for sure, but other than embarrassing starts, no problems. The feeling is different enough that I'll try a fixed RTP, today just to decide if messing with the rear toe should be an off-season adjustment. I don't think I'll be sticking with the ARTP, I do feel that much from one set. I really like the freedom it allows to keep weight on the front foot, especially the offside preturn, but I'm thinking the loose R-style is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted September 3, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 3, 2015 As much as people talk about RTP's, I'm surprised how many double booters there are. I learned on a RTP and got injured so it scared me to double boots. Double seemed like the cool thing to do and felt like it'd be safer but I always hated getting up with double boots. Got hurt on double boots twice and went back to RTP and a Reflex. Switching between the two was easy IMO. Felt naked going back to RTP at first but only before and after the course. In the middle of the course, I couldn't tell a difference. Granted I use a Radar ARTP with the heel cup...I can't do the flat skid tape. My foot doesn't feel secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GOODESkier Posted September 6, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2015 I Suck on a RTP...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted September 6, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2015 I started using double boots in the 80s. Used them ever since. My foot had come out a few times. But really I think it was just the trend back then. First one was a HO mach1 with double ho boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted September 6, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2015 @bananaron keep your wiley front, order a D3 RTP and give it a try. If you don't like it I'll buy it from you as a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted September 6, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2015 After my first slalom ski I have always used double boots and feel comfortable on them. Never really had a reason to try the RTP again. I also like the feeling of having both feet "locked in/down". When I had a RTP on my first ski, I always had my back foot in so it was a easy and natural transition to doubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller harddock Posted September 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2015 I learned behind a small outboard and had to drag rear foot, My son has switched from RTP to double boot and loves it and is skiing much better. It is a personal thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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