Which ZO Settings Are Actually Used (I don't use Plus)?

[ToddL]

If you use ZO and do not use a Plus setting, please select below. If you use a Plus setting see the other survey. The poll solution on BOS only allows for 10 answer choices, ZO provides 18 options with plus.

[ToddL]

For some reason, BOS won't let me create the second survey for all the PLUS options... Maybe this one has to live for a while first. Stay tuned...

[Horton]

@ToddL Most likely the error is between keyboard and chair

[MISkier]

I have tried C2+ and may do so again next season, but primarily use C2.

[Wish]

I would caution reading anything into this poll other then..well that's interesting. When ZO came out I was told many times that I needed to ski ______ setting because _____. I ended up choosing a setting that made my skiing feel the best. I went through all the settings and landed on one that was not suggested by anyone. Now this may change with the ski I am on as its very different from the previous. But most likely will try them all again till I get that Ah-Ha moment and not go with the suggestion of others or which seems to be the flavor of the month.. But I am interested to see which lands on top.

[RazorRoss3]

This looks like B2 because no one has time to test them all. Personally settled on C before the 1,2,3 then was C2 because it was the middle. Last year went down to C1 because it felt better. Just as an aside, there are a good number of people who change setting by boat.

[jerrym]

I have run A1 since ZO came out. I started trying other settings again this fall and have settled on C2. Didn;t see this coming....but sure am happy with the change!

[Marco]

I went to C1 several years ago to force me to break my bad habit of pulling off the ball. The C settings would really punish you for doing so. It worked, and I don't pull off the ball so much anymore. I stayed at C1 because I like the early acceleration which helps lead to an early edge change.

 

 

[PatM]

I have been B3 for so long I don't know if I could switch. It is my default setting on my boat. While I'm on it, does anyone know how to change the default setting on ZO?

[Roger]

I use B2 on the SN, SC, and MB and C1 on the MC.

[Ralph Lee]

This is my first year on ZO. 6 foot 220, PB 2 at 39. After a lot of struggling, I ended up loving A3+

[ToddL]

The "PLUS" setting survey is up now.

 

Here's my thought... If after these surveys have been up for a while, we see that there are some clear laggard settings that are not being used - what can we surmise from that? Do those settings have anything in common, etc. ? We won't really know until we get some results.

 

Yes - I know many people choose a different setting by boat. I wish the Poll feature allowed users to check multiple values. Maybe this is a survey better built on Survey Monkey - all 18 settings listed and each respondent can check any that they use on a regular basis.

 

My curiosity is if there is any opportunity to simply ZO settings. Kind of the opposite of the direction of the asymmetrical ZO thread.

[ToddL]

@"Pat M" - everything you wanted to know about ZO but were afraid to ask:

http://www.usawaterski.org/speedcontrol/zerooffpresentation.pdf#page=13

 

[PatM]

@ToddL I have tried most of the settings, just like B3. But I was curious as to why it automatically defaults to B3 when I shut down the system (SN with the toggle switch to shut off everything).

[lpskier]

I skied C3 for several years, then switched to B3. I found with the B setting I could build more angle before getting the power of the boat. When I got my Connelly GT this season, it took so much angle that I had to switch to B1 to be able to hold on.

[PhilSymo]

Looks like i am the only A3....

 

[LeonL]

@"Pat M" , B3 default? I've never seen a boat that defaults to anything but B2. I'm sure there is no way to change it.

[Roger]

@LeonL - not sure about other boats, but my 2009 SN Limited will default to B3 if I shut the master power off (which I do because the Limited version of the boat slowly drains power if you leave the master switch on for a few days between use). I don't know if the LINC boats do this or not but I'll ask Becky tonight when we ski.

[MattP]

The default can be changed based on the skier profile the boat was left on. I know this was the case with the separate head units. I am not sure about the new screen systems.

[PatM]

@MattP Aha! I did make a profile for myself a long time ago(forgot about doing it). That could very well be it.

[DefectiveDave]

I've only ever skied zero-off at ski school and the occasional tournament. I just choose B2 because it's supposedly pretty balanced (and hence the default).

[Drago]

@PhilSymo I've used A3, but can only answer 1 option

[Kelvin]

For all the B2 skiers there should be another poll

 

I ski B2 because:

 

1. I've tried all the settings and this is the one I like the best.

2. I've never asked for a different setting and this is the one the driver gives me.

3. I tried it first and it feels OK so I haven't tried any other settings.

4. Its the default and I don't have time/desire to experiment.

[RazorRoss3]

Honestly the first year anyone has consistent access to ZO they should never use a 1/3 setting and should simply try and find the letter they like. Once you have that you can pick a number but the letter is more important I think. I know immediately at a tournament if I forgot to give the driver my setting because it's usually on a B setting and I've skied various C settings for years.

[Dacon62]

@horton...PEBKAC error. Problem exsists between keyboard and chair. Lol.

 

Used B2 at first now A3. Will try some others next season.

[Than_Bogan]

More related to the reason behind this poll than the poll itself:

 

If it came down to my vote as to whether to force every skier to use (for example) C3, I would vote for that even though I use B1 and I hate C3. I feel that strongly about completely getting rid of these parameters. Eventually, I'd learn how to ski with whatever the control system's behavior was.

 

Of course, I think a much more sane proposal would be to get rid of the parameters and make it always be B2, because then nobody would be moving more than 1 letter and/or 1 number from their current setting.

[dchristman]

@Than_Bogan but I should be able to choose my own max speed, right? >:)

[Than_Bogan]

That's correct. :)

[ToddL]

 

 

117 votes across both polls so far.

 

The least voted settings are:

B1+ 0 votes

C1+ 0 votes

A1+ 1 vote

A2+ 1 vote

A3+ 1 vote

B3+ 1 vote

C3+ 1 vote

 

The Top voted settings are:

B2 33 votes

C1 24 votes

C2 13 votes

A2 10 votes

B1 9 votes

[Drago]

Back when I drove with two hands I didn't pull little kids , light 80 year old women and 200 lb Open skiers the same

[AKShortline]

Earlier this season I tried several different settings, same day, same conditions, same rope length (-28). Interesting; I normally ski B1, told driver go to A1. During the pass I thought "Oh ya, I can tell it's coming on a bit later, feels good, maybe I'll change to A and it will make me more patient". Got to the end of the lake and driver (my smart-ass kid) told me "that was C1"... Hmmm. Then I skied a bunch more passes with random settings, and tried to guess what they were after the pass. I never got it right. Just sayin'.

 

Maybe more noticeable with less rope? Heading to AZ this weekend will try some different settings at -35 and report back.

[BRY]

@AKShortline You may not have been able to tell which it was, but could you tell there was a change? That they felt different? Wouldn't put it past Carter to leave it on C1 the whole time and just tell you he was changing it.