Baller Ilivetoski Posted May 30, 2016 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2016 Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted May 30, 2016 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2016 Great skiing!! Two biggest things I see, 1) Get higher on the boat in your pull-out, you'll be amazed how that changes things. 2) You are getting off the handle and reaching too early on 2/4....I'll look more tomorrow - great work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted May 30, 2016 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2016 yep...need to be higher on the boat for the gates. See still image. You need to be another 12" higher on where the line crossed the boat gunnel; which will put you higher on the turn in. This creates more angle and less speed into ball 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 2tracmind Posted May 31, 2016 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2016 Really athletic skiing. Agreed on the gate width. A couple other observations: - during gate glide your hips and shoulders are pointing towards the wake, as a LFF this common, try to keep your hips and shoulders as square as possible ( pointing at 2/4/6). This should allow the lower body to initiate the turn and you will be in a accelerating position sooner. - your arms appear to be coming away from your body at edge change, sending you on a narrower path to the ball. Try to keep the handle low and close through the edge change and until your reach. There is a lot of solid elements to your skiing, just some little cleaning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 12, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2016 @Ilivetoski how are things coming along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted June 13, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 13, 2016 Well, I'm getting down 32 every single pass. I don't know why but it just isn't falling. I have no clue what I'm doing that is keeping me from the pass because I am getting starts that are giving me no excuses. Got some video today if someone else can possibly figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2016 Fantastic improvement, that's going down soon. You have everything you need to run that pass. Now, don't hate me for saying this but you I believe your start is still hurting you a bit. BIG improvement, but you are still drifting back a bit too far before you turn in, and you're turning in under too much load, and the result is a more direct w path to one, with a lot of speed, and a late exit out of the turn. It's runnable that way, you'd just be amazed how much easier a great start makes that pass, and how much more angle you can create by initiating your turn in from a higher point, while you are a bit more free from the load of the boat. Perhaps think about pulling out nice and high, and matching the speed of the boat in your glide at your highest point, and turning in towards one at that moment. You will create a lot more angle without all of the speed. I think your late exit out of one is the reason why you give up your arms a bit early into two. You are one day away from stroking that. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2016 Even though you are getting up nice and high, here is where you are actually initiating your turn in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted June 13, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 13, 2016 @Texas6 start my pull out later? Because I am getting wider than 2,4,6. If I'm pulling out too early I could be losing ground on the boat by the time I'm going in for the gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted June 13, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 Oh yeah -- super close. To try to answer your last question: Although you may need to adjust your timing a little, I think the bigger deal is to build more speed as you move up, so that you are going a similar speed to the boat and thus can "stay out there." We spent almost all of our time at The Denali Summit on this one point. But if there's a short version it's that you want to initiate your move up by leaning leftward and forward. There's no "away from the boat" component at all. This will gain you speed very rapidly without a lot of load. (The first time I tried it I went about 100 feet past my usual turn-in point and couldn't stop laughing. Did it a little a less aggressively the next time...) The weird part is, you can't really see someone doing this, because what happens is you move with the ski and you never actually go forward much. But now that I am aware of it, I constantly see every pro's move up looks like they are with the ski and nearly every amateur looks like they are falling behind the ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2016 @Ilivetoski I think you need to adjust where you focus your eyes. You said you are getting wider than 2,4,6. That isn't really a good judgement point because that width varies with line length. I think should focus on the angle of the rope on the boat as that is a consistent judgement of width at the gates. You might think of pulling out later or longer so that you aren't losing speed and width before your turn in. I also agree with @Than_Bogan on leaning left and forward to help you get width more easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2016 What @Chef23 & @Than_Bogan said. The idea is to match your maximum pull-out width/height with a glide speed consistent with the speed of the boat - that way you feel just barely free of the pull on the rope from the boat as you initiate your turn in toward the gates. When you wait to feel the load from the boat, prior to turning into the gates....two things happen. 1.) It's harder to turn your ski and generate proper angle through the gates towards one ball. Oftentimes the result here is a more direct line toward the buoy, instead of creating space for yourself in front of it. 2.) Speed is generated too early pushing you fast into one ball. This is easier said than done, but like everything else in skiing, it becomes more automatic with repetition, and when you get it right, its very easy to feel the difference it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted June 14, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 It's been said above, but if you really want to see how much you width you are loosing before the turn in watch your 2nd 32 off video and use the frame forward (>) and reverse buttons (<) on your key board. Watch yourself in relation to the Bimini support bars. I realize the camera moves a little so the perspective changes but you can definitely see the loss of width. Get the timing down and you will own that pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 15, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 15, 2016 @livetoski - let us know how the progress goes. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rich Posted January 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2018 I agree with Than, stay with the ski. Get your arms straight behind the boat, hips up, that will give you more power off the 2nd wake. You are close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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