Baller Jibbo Posted August 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2016 Wakeye iOS app has just released an update that includes: Auto Mode will now be the Default setting It will retain the FPS and Zoom settings previously set even when app is completely shut down Low resolution in iPhone 6s bug fixed. Any feedback on these updates would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 21, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted August 21, 2016 Will update and use in the am. This is great news @Jibbo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted August 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2016 Wakeye is the best app ever! One small thing, I wish it would save directly to my "camera roll." Or have a select all and move to camera roll option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jibbo Posted August 21, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted August 21, 2016 @Bill22 if you increase the fps to 120 or 240 it will save directly to your camera roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted August 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2016 Ok I had to buy a Samsung to shoot any decent video with the Wake eye setup. I have a 6s plus now so is it going to be any better, I understand this is/was an iPhone problem not the app? On the Android app it would be nice to have a better zoom function, one that you can recall each time rather than the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted August 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2016 @Jibbo cool! I will definitely bump up the FPS. When you ski two days (4-5 sets = 40 videos) then try to move all those videos to the camera roll it's easy to lose track of what has been moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted August 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2016 What is the preferred setting? Stabilization on/off? I had mine off because someone on BOS said the app works better with it off (maybe that was for a Samsung). I tried both but don't see a difference when viewing on my cell. Maybe on a bigger screen like a laptop it would be obvious which is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jibbo Posted August 22, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted August 22, 2016 @scotchipman we are currently testing an update with 120fps on the android app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2016 Shot video at both 60fps and 120fps with my Iphone 6s this morning. All of it looks really good! Nice work @Jibbo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 22, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted August 22, 2016 Diddo. Uploading vid to Vemio but some stills off the vid say a lot as to clarity. 60fps stabilizer on iPhone 6S. Well done guys. Huge difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 22, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted August 22, 2016 Before and after the update. Note: not a Wakeye tracking system. Shaking may be more of what I use. Also forgot to set zoom to 1.25 this morning. It is the pixilation of the first video that has beed drastically improved. Just pause either at any given point and it is obvious. Still playing with RTP and settings so skiing kinda...meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jibbo Posted August 22, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted August 22, 2016 @Wish - excellent to see the app is working better for your iPhone 6S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2016 Looking forward to the Android version update here. I get a minor rolling shutter effect with my Nexus 6P. Nothing terrible, but what I have had happen on a couple occasions is the app crashing. Missed my second set this morning since the phone had shut down. Haven't seen this happen on my HTC M8, but I don't like that camera as much, especially in the early morning lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baller Jibbo Posted August 23, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted August 23, 2016 @scotchipman the rolling shutter effect on the iPhone is certainly better with increased frame rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted August 23, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2016 Videos taken on smartphones are excellent ... IF ... a capable person is holding the camera and filming. But mounting smartphones to pylon trackers is often terrible. Between the rolling shutter effects, and the anti-shake algorithms, the murky, wavy results aren't nearly as good as any GoPro at 1080, narrow, 30fps. If your smartphone gives you the option, make sure any video stabilization or ant-shake features are turned off. The camera shaking you get when the skier grabs the handle will be there, but most of the software-induced waviness will go away. And this waviness makes it tough to get a good read on ski behavior for tuning purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 24, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted August 24, 2016 @SkiJay i find the phone vids extremely helpful when importing them to "Coach My Video" app. Slow motion, stop fame, frame by fram make all that waviness or shakyness or recoiling from taking up some slack vertiallally unimpactfull to analysis. Watching at full speed does have its benafits with noticing things like pace, timing, rhythm but the above doesn't really affect that either. Most technique things get analyzed at slowed rates. Add to that the ability to pinch zoom, draw and do side by side videos and it's a powerhouse. All from the convenience of the boat at the end of a set. No need for wait on transferring from a SD card to a computer then analyze much later. Just says..... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted August 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2016 @Wish Coach My Video isn't available for Androids, and Coach's Eye has been nothing but frustrating. I like the benefits you've listed, so I wish Coach My Video would port to Android for a try. So far, however, the phone apps I've seen are good for technique work, but not detailed enough for ski-tuning. I'd love to not have to carry around a laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted August 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2016 @Wish What is this Coach my video you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2016 @Jibbo -- question. My brother and I skied today and on his iphone 6s the video playback starts out in normal speed and then all of the sudden goes to slow motion just as he is entering the course. All of the videos playback this way. Is there some setting we don't know about or a way to make that stop happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2016 @Jibbo -- frame rate he shot was 240. I shot with my phone on 120 and did not experience this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2016 You need to go to edit and slide the little bars at the bottom of the screen all the way to then watch. I wish regular motion was the default and slow motion was an option. I also have an issue on iPhome 6 where 240 renders the app useless? 120 works well so I will stick to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 24, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ha.. Same thing has happened to me randomly both on 6 and 6s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 24, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted August 24, 2016 @Texas6 it may be that your 6 memory is full or close enough that 240 is just to big of a file. I never went above 120 but often ran out of space. Lots memory used if some are in the app at 60fps and some have gone to your photo album. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2016 @Wish, yep I think you're right. The 120fps are a major improvement and are very useable at 1.25x zoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lars Posted September 23, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2020 resurrected an old thread... I usually shoot at 120 fps so it goes straight to my phone's photo gallery, mostly for ease of use/sharing and can easily see dates and times. However that takes up a lot of unnecessary space, is there a way to get 60 fps videos to default to saving to the phone gallery instead of the wakeye app gallery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jibbo Posted September 23, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted September 23, 2020 @Lars at 60fps it always saves to the Wakeye app. You can then save it to the photo gallery from there. 120fps and 240fps the files are too large to save within the app so it then saves it directly to the photo gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 30, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 30, 2020 Does this app work again on iPhone? I gave up on it a few years ago when the update for iPhone X caused the app to stop working on other devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller braindamage Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 The app works on my iPhone 6 and the 11. The 11 shakes too violently to be usable. I’ve given up and am using my old iPhone 6 as a dedicated ski camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BCM Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 I am using it on an older iPhone SE (based on the 5, not the newer SE) and it works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 1, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 1, 2020 Are you guys keeping (paying for) data plans for these old phones in order for the GPS to work to engage the stop/start recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 My iPhone 8 using the front camera works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lars Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 @wish the gps will work without a sim card, I have a 5S i use for that purpose as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BCM Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 @wish - My old SE is my everyday phone so it has a full data plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 1, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 1, 2020 @Lars that’s really good to know. I have not upgraded past 6s as the camera works well. But would consider if I knew the GPS still worked for the app. So you just pull the phone carriers some card and use the app as normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 1, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 1, 2020 @BCM and @Wish, I am also using my iPhone SE (the old SE, not the new version they revived this year). It is my active phone. I do not know how/if it works when it is used as an inactive/spare phone without service. When I set it to 60 fps and Stabilization on, I get very good video and decently smooth tracking with the Wakeye mount. Here is an example: P.S. You should be able to view in 1080p HD. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lars Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 @wish correct, you can try it too by turning off your cellular data or pulling your sim card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 1, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 1, 2020 One caveat on using the old phones: my iPhone 4 GPS did not function after I discontinued my service and/or upgraded that iOS to the last version it could take. So, I don't know if Apple disabled my GPS with the upgrade or if the lack of service caused the GPS to stop functioning. But, I could not use my iPhone 4 for Wakeye video after that point. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 Buy an older Android phone. Works great, even in low light if you get a decent one like an OG Pixel. I grabbed one off Ebay for about 45 bucks this summer. It was DARK when this video was shot, and I think it turned out pretty well considering the light conditions. Can see a bit of pixelation, but who cares? It's a phone. https://photos.app.goo.gl/tu43Qdmwaive3FyY9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2020 How the hell is that Off Topic? Old Android phones without OIS have functioning GPS without a data plan... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mylemsky Posted October 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 2, 2020 Agree with @UWSkier, og pixel works great, no sim. I could not get 2 xl or pixel 4 to record smoothly, lots of shake. If anyone has had luck please share. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 2, 2020 @mylemsky Pixel 2 and later introduced OIS (optical image stabilization). OG Pixel has a phenomenal camera and is a really recent handset to NOT have OIS. Any phone with OIS is going to struggle. They're tuned for the frequencies of shaky human hands, not a metal pole bolted to the same bulkhead as a small block v8 at 3700 revs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mylemsky Posted October 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 3, 2020 @UWSkier thx for clarifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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