ellenm Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I've been on an HO Approach binding and it's getting old. I love the forward leaning position on it and want to find a replacement that is close. I tried the Reflex last year for at least 6 weeks and couldn't make it work. Any ideas on a good transitional boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted February 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2017 Concur - Double Approaches were the bomb on the Monza! IMO try: 1.) Radar Vapors 2.) Radar Vector/Lyrics (most cost-effective) 3.) D3 T-factors. Have tried all, they don't have the inherent dorsi-flexion as the Approaches but probably the next best thing with regard to ankle flexion and the easiest transition. Demoing would be best if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller perfski Posted February 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2017 agree with @Gloersen on suggestions...I would think from people buying them in the shop the T-Factors and Vapors have been the two styles most chosen. Will be glad to help if we can. www.perfski.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted February 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2017 I think of the Radar (RS1, Strada, Vapor, etc) boots as the modern day Approach. Both came from the same design team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted February 7, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted February 7, 2017 @Gloersen is correct. Approach on the Monza was lights out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 7, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 7, 2017 @AdamCord The difference is that Approach was basically unreleasable and the Radar (RS1, Strada, Vapor, etc) boots release as long as you are do not over tighten the top lace. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted February 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2017 @Horton yes totally agree. I think my ankle is still recovering from the one time I used the Approach 10 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted February 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2017 Get the Radar Vapors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller unksskis Posted February 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2017 Radar Vapors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted February 8, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2017 @ellenm, I think the FM is a good transitional boot, and the one I used to switch from rubber or soft bindings to hard shell. My transition was Approach -> RS1 -> FM E-series (only front biding, I use a kicker). If you only use one cuff buckle and bungee cord, together with the thicker liner, you should not feel the ski as "nervous" as you probably felt it with the Reflex. Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted February 8, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2017 I still remember a knot in my stomach when i saw a friend at the dock with a front Reflex and a back Approach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DUSkier Posted February 8, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2017 @ellenm make sure whatever you go to you make sure new binding is in stock position for your ski NOT the position of your Approach! My experience was going from Approach the binding was a lot further back on the ski to where My FM e series ended up. i.e. FM's where almost 10mm further forward on the same ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prettig Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 10 years on approach, last year I changed ski to V-type R (from Monza) but not the boots (not too much at once). Yesterday I put on Radar Vapor's (double boots). 2 sets and skied immediately better at all runs ! Far more feel, angel and control. For me perfect transition.......just take you time to perfectly match your current boot setup (took me 2 hours off fiddling, measuring, tape, etc.....). So I matched the Approach bindings setup as close as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopowpow Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 My husband and I both switched from Approach to RS1/Vapors, it was an easy transition. AND no more worrying about not coming out on a crash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller perfski Posted June 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2017 @ellenm From customers coming in the shop.....seems like most have either moved on to D3 T-Factor boots or Radar Vapor boots....if we can help let us know. Here are links: http://www.perfski.com/d3-t-factor-boot223 http://www.perfski.com/radar-2017-left-carbitex-vapor-boot1 http://www.perfski.com/radar-2017-right-carbitex-vapor-boot14 Bill @ Performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellenm Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 I went with the HO hardshell and love it. Took me about 5 sets and am running my challenge pass (32 off) almost every set now. It pre-released early 2 or 3 days ago, so I tightened it just a bit (now between 3 and 4). It was originally set on 3. Almost tied my PB (4@35 off) 2 days ago, so I think it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted June 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 15, 2017 I was in HO high wrap boots and then Animals for over 20 years. I really like their performance but decided to make a change and have a pair of Radar Carbitex boots being delivered any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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