Baller cragginshred Posted August 17, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 17, 2017 What is a good option to the radius type bent handle Randy made/makes? I need out break out my and nee a new back up. Is Randy officially out of business and what is a good floating option? I really like the curved shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted August 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2017 Buy yourself a tubing bender and get to work:) There are plenty of options out there that will have the similar feel. I am not sure of any that have the all the way around look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted August 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2017 I really like the US Gear handles way better than anything else too. Over the years I've used them all and they (Us Gear) are the best Didn't like masterlines copy at all. Wish someone could/would buy up his jigs etc. he was kind of a flake. I sent him several hundred dollars and it took a year to get the money back PS currently using a MasterlineCustom Grip and it's pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How did u get money back after yr.i have couple friends and me been duped.us gear plays u with he's having medical problems and he's behind so your nice and u wait tell it's to late to stop payment .paypal is 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 18, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted August 18, 2017 There is not another handle like it and it bums me out that when mine wear out I won't be able to get another. I wish ML or In-tow could copy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted August 18, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted August 18, 2017 I understand that ML stopped making the US Gear style handle. I didn't see a single one at their Nationals booth. I understand they worked particularly well with Clincher style gloves. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted August 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2017 @Horton what's up with the disagree? I was saying if @cragginshred was handy one could probably make a handle with a jig and bender. Also, there are options out there that have the feel of a US gear handle, just not the full radius. Plenty of people would be more than happy to let you try a handle around your area or let ML know and they could probably work with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 @bigskieridaho I think you will find if you try to do it yourself you're going to waste a lot of time and money before you give up Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MZito Posted August 19, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2017 @lpskier I spoke to Randy at Masterline yesterday regarding this very topic and he said they will have their "new" ergo handle out in 2-4 weeks, which will be up on their site. I have used the previous ML ergo handle and I feel it is better than US Gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 19, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2017 @bigskieridaho if the experience and knowledge and resources of ML have failed on copying the handles.. its not likely anyone with a bender and some rubber will be able to pull it of unless they put a s...load of time and money into it. There's no way it's as easy as some folks think It is or somebody else would be doing it by now. Especially given USG's pathetic YEARS long level of service, there's definitely a market there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 19, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2017 Not that you should - I've had some thoughts on making the bend - but my theory would be that the tube should be packed with sand and the ends capped prior to bending those end radius. These turns seem pretty tight for aluminum tube to be bent otherwise with out collapsing the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted August 20, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 20, 2017 Masterline or InTow unless you can get @Edbrazil to string up an Ultra with some spectra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted August 20, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 20, 2017 I know absolutely nothing about building ropes or handles but I've spent countless hours bending tubing. I suspect ML has had learning curve bending tube same as I would have making ropes. It might be better to go to an outside company to bend the handles. The material, wall thickness, and radius all have to be considered, the rubber over the tube would just add another degree of difficulty. There's always some spring back so you have to compensate for that. I'd probably go with a custom hydraulic driven bender with custom die that could be split in half. The die would be capable of making all the bends, split the die in half to pop out the finished handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 20, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 20, 2017 You would be amazed how tight a bend you can make if the tubing is packed tight with fine sand. Is not rocket science. You Tube has all kinds of how to do it vids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 20, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 20, 2017 For production runs @gregy is spot on, good friends family runs a tube and bar bending company, they have CNC benders that literally spit out things like frames for bus seats, hand rails for tractors, wire frames for paint rollers. If you offered only a single radius bend and a single width..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I would think that the size handle is determined by how much rubber they cut off ,with same size inner tubing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 20, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 20, 2017 Here is how I switched from USGear handle 1) ordered traditional handle with bend 2) take ski ride with new handle 3) find something else to occupy my time Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 20, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted August 20, 2017 I would by any this USG type handle from any maker that makes them but the problem is that nobody has one that is even close to the quality and build type that USG had. ML and or Brenda need to find out what the deal is and copy it. I dont disagree with anything anyone is saying but I just want to get another when mine go caput. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted August 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2017 ML had problems with the aluminum breaking. The first batch worked fine. There after they broke. I was looking into doing barefoot handles when I was down at the WBC last year. The bent end handles are not easy to make. They need to be pressed instead of stretch bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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