Administrators Horton Posted December 16, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 16, 2019 Nobody is really anonymous. I have everybody's email address and IP address and if somebody is way the hell out of line I intervene. Of course I much prefer people put their real name in their profile but I can't make everybody do that. I have some pretty specific guidelines written down somewhere about what I will and will not allow on this specific subject and to date nobody has violated those guidelines. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted December 16, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2019 @escmanaze so you are willing to completely disregard the findings of a professional, investigative body just because the Washington Post reported on them? You know the Post didn't do the investigation right, they just wrote an article about it. But that's enough for you to not believe any of the allegations? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spineofgoo Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 @MillerTime38 sorry I read that wrong,and they're not panties it's a thong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted December 16, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2019 @jcamp is it so hard to believe that there are people out there that do not agree with YOUR point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spineofgoo Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 @gmut I totally agree with @jcamp but society today has the "it could never happen here " attitude.What's the first thing people say when they are interviewed after a violent incident or crime scene."but he seemed like such a nice person" it's not a matter of if,it is a matter of when ,sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 @Than_Bogan not telling you my reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 Ha ha ha!!!! @jcamp let's look at this. What I wrote: "Tend to believe more" What you took away: "completely disregard" and "not believe any" Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 There is some crazy in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 @escmanaze what you said! So much truth in that statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 @Spineofgoo your logic escapes me,nevertheless,I totally agree with @escmanaze ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted December 17, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted December 17, 2019 Maybe it is time to move on.. we all have our own direction in this sport, trying to be more efficient on our skis, trying to make our skiing experience a enjoyable experiance and so on.. However dont you think it is time to let this go? Mr. Smith did his time out. He also now has lost an incredible amount of support in this sport. Let Mr. Smith deal with the hand he delt himself. Dont you all think that a person should have the right to redemption? It is true we need to be vigilant but give the man a chance in life to better his self! It is Christmas time and at this time of the year we need to be spreading love and cheer and the need to ski! Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And happy new year to "All " skiers around the globe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 Redemption? Yes. But there’s a few things you DON’T DO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 @Jody_Seal Well said Jody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 @Jody_Seal what @skierjp said!! and Merry Christmas and a Very Blessed and Happy New Year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted December 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2019 @Jody_Seal ... Thank You !!!! It does say in the Bible "Let he who is without Sin, cast the first stone." Hope you and your Family have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller addkerr Posted December 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 18, 2019 Until examples are made, forgetting this ever happened will lead to it happening again. This should remain in the public knowledge and never buried. Maybe it can make someone second guess what they are doing in the future and protect the possible victims. Redemption is correct and should be available, however I have yet to see any redeeming acts at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UCFskier Posted December 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 19, 2019 @Ed_Johnson how in the world does that quote apply here? come on man!! @addkerr you are right on the money.... time and consistent behavior leads to ppl feeling like a change has been internalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted December 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 19, 2019 I know we can “star” a thread so we can be updated when it gets new content. Can we add a grave or headstone icon to the ones that beat the dead horse, endlessly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted December 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 19, 2019 @UCFskier the fact that you do not understand how the quote from @Ed_Johnson applies speaks volumes about you!! @aupatking could not agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted December 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 19, 2019 +5 for @aupatking - are we there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted December 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geppetto Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Has everyone read the Post article thoroughly? If so then yes we should move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted December 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 22, 2019 @Geppetto curious why you don't have a profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UCFskier Posted December 24, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 24, 2019 @gmut I am well aware of the quote and it in no way applies to keeping the public and children safe. I do feel pretty comfortable suggesting ways to exercise caution around ppl who have violated the trust of the public due to violence and other inappropriate behaviors (what I do for a living). that being said feel free to send your children or grand children to who ever you like all the best and merry Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted December 25, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 25, 2019 @UCFskier Merry Christmas to you too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller brody Posted December 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 27, 2019 It is simple, keep your daughters away from this predator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted December 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 27, 2019 Here’s to really hoping this thread is dead...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spineofgoo Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 Fact: "Florida statutory rape law is violated when a person has consensual sexual intercourse with an individual under Age 18. Close in age exemptions exist, allowing minors aged 16 or 17 to engage in sexual intercourse with a partner no older than age 23". Are we to assume ALL the investigators and police were more worried about protecting a world record holder of some obscure sport than pursuing justice? I think not. Lynch mob mentality is alive in well in America. Maybe witchcraft is behind running these short lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mmskiboat Posted December 28, 2019 Members Share Posted December 28, 2019 I think that most people are concerned with not just one incident but the pattern that was shown. The text msgs and comments in those seem like the action of a predator. I get the culture that exists today and do not like it. It is easy to create a narrative to fit a story and then repeat it and get people to just read your version to become the truth (not saying this happened here) Having said that even thou I'm new here this is a group of people that send their kids to camps with coaches etc and seeing some of this behavior scares the crap out of them (as it should) and cuts a lot closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 I have no idea what the pattern of a sexual predator looks like, and unless you are on the crime task working sexual predator cases, I doubt anyone on here does as well, unless you want to claim you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express... My kids are now 28 and 25 and when they went through junior and senior high school I was shocked at some of the stories of sexual activity by their peers. My son told me numerous times how girls came onto him, "hundreds" of times. (He is a stud athlete and a good looking guy). I am not judging either side as we do not know all the facts so will need to rely on the people who did the investigation. You also have to realize there are parents out there that will blame everyone and everything else before their miss goodie two shoes is held accountable. I am not saying that is the case here, as we just don't know. Some of those text streams should have stopped abruptly by the offended party in my opinion. And don't tell me these girls didn't know what they were messing around with. Like the girl who went up to Mike Tyson's hotel room at 2 am. Duh. There is like 500K pregnancies under age 16 in America, are we to believe those were all due to sexual predation?? Some of you guys must have your heads so wrapped around the next buoy you don't see the world we are living in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 Well said @A_B ! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spineofgoo Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 @ab thank you for some of the most ignorant macho bullshit I've ever heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 @Spineofgoo I have zero connection to @A_B and I am not the moderator but you're out of line...that emoji is very unnecessary and if you disagree perhaps you could be more constructive by using a little more grey matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 I agree with @jayski and was actually quite shocked at the response from @Spineofgoo I’m not the moderator either and very rarely post but @Spineofgoo you are out of line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 I don’t think I am the ignorant one here. My macho days are long gone. Just call it as I see it. Your response is all we need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misp Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Just waiting for the moderator to step in - in favor of spineofgoo - ....well said @A_B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 @A_B no offense or questioning of your son's sexual attractiveness to the ladies, but to illustrate the difference. Your son at 18 saying hey Dad check it out these chicks are throwing themselves at me is very different than your son at 24 texting kids. One is hey I'm proud of my son, the other is hey my adult son might be grooming 14 year olds. That is the duality of this debate, if your 14 yo daughter has a text message thread going with any 20+ yo water-skier do you want to have it cc to your inbox or is it copacetic ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 This thread is of no value and is only serving to air ridiculous ongoing banter. Many have already expressed exasperation of allowing it to continue. Our fearless moderator needs to step in and shut it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2019 If folks want to continue to banter about, why not let them? No one is being forced to click on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 More cliks more money for... My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 29, 2019 Administrators Share Posted December 29, 2019 Gentlemen I'm letting this thread run its course provided nobody violates my very specific rules on the subject. If you hate this thread stop commenting on it and it will fall down the page. Every time you comment on it that puts fuel on the fire. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Marco Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stejcraftben Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 What a joke this thread is. Shut it down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 @Marco Thats not at all what @A_B was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 Again- Charged and convicted of a crime - yes or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 It takes a victim of sexual abuse to come forward for someone to be convicted of a crime. As to why they dont come forward. There are many reasons. You can look it up yourself. How do you think other famous coaches and people got away with it for years before being convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 @Marco if I could give a panda.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Marco Posted December 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2019 @A_B My apologies. I reread your post and realize I misinterpreted what you were saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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