Baller Dacon62 Posted September 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 28, 2019 Wondering which attachment point everyone is using? The one furthest away or the one nearer the rudder shaft. Mine is a 17 and the distance from the furthest attachment point to the rudder, centerline to centerline is 5.5”. Is this consistent with model years 14 to present? Or have they changed the rudder arm (tiller?)length over the years? I think the furthest point is factory? Of those of you that moved to the closer hole has it been a positive experience or have you moved back to the furthest hole? Any clearance issues with the near hole? Thank you for your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted September 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 28, 2019 Inside hole makes the steering much more precise. I moved mine and would never go back. But that was on a ‘15, so I’m not sure if there were any other in years after to improve steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted September 29, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2019 Ditto on our '15. Moved to the inside hole. Drives better, reduces oversteering. Also ground the opposite side (port side) of the rudder to reduce some of the torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted September 29, 2019 @skibug same here. Ground the port side a bit to reduce pull to starboard. Was just too much from factory. Still hope to hear from someone with a 14 PS to see if they changed the length of the rudder arm(tiller?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Mine is in the outside hole and was set there by Mr. Will Bush. Most important thing he did was to shim it with some washers which are up the slack in the stock connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Mine was a promo boat for several years and all the drivers loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 @Chuck_Dickey if I recall your promo was a 14? Was your tiller arm 5.5” connection point center to rudder shaft center as well? Trying to determine if the tiller arm length was changed at all from 14 to 17 model years. Looks like your set up has 2 washers on your horizontal bolt. Mine has 4, but all that matters is that the slack there is taken up. Are there extra washers on your vertical bolt as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted October 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 I'm not sure I see what the extra washers are doing? On the vertical bolt, pairing up washers could allow easier pivoting, but there's really no pivoting on the horizontal. Looks almost like it was re-assembled wrong, should have one under the head of the bolt and one at the nut? For the vertical bolt putting 2 at each end could help with movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 My understanding was that if not enough washers were used on the horizontal bolt(same could be true for the vertical bolt)there was some slop. My guess is the selected bolt did not have threads far enough down the bolt and the nut could not tighten up enough without the washers taking up the space left. Don’t know for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted October 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 @Dacon62 Thats possible if its a partial thread bolt, which would make since in this application....didn't consider that. For that purpose it really wouldn't matter where the washers were along the bolt. I haven't taken mine apart to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster88 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Moved mine on my ‘14. Same response and results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted October 5, 2019 @Chuck_Dickey just noticed that your connection point is above the tiller arm while mine is below. Which way is factory? Which way is best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted October 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2019 I saw that also, mine us below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 8, 2020 Moved my attachment from outside to inside hole. Like it and all was well until I reversed a bit aggressively at full steering lock to try and clear some weeds out of the prop and the rudder pushed over the full lock from the pressure and chewed up the prop. $#*!. New prop on the way...hope the shaft didn’t take a slight bend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 8, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 8, 2020 Ouch! How's the rudder? My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 8, 2020 Rudder OK. Hit the top back area where it’s the thickest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelWiebe Posted July 11, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2020 Moved mine to the inside on my '14. Same response and results. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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