Administrators Horton Posted November 7, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2019 Are there enough L / R events in your area? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted November 7, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 7, 2019 Need to clarify what's near me. What's constitutes near? Even here in florida we can travel 300 - 800 miles one way for a record event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 7, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2019 @Jody_Seal I guess if you're willing to travel those kinds of distances it's "near" enough. It's a 4-hour drive for me to get to the nearest L events so I just don't get up there very often. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted November 7, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 7, 2019 Hats off to the LOC that can get the necessary Judges together to host an L/R event. More than a 2 hour drive is not “near”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 8, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 8, 2019 By the way this thread is in response to comments in the W4 thread saying that some skiers only had Regional and Nationals to get international scores. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted November 8, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 8, 2019 We were fortunate to have two L events in Michigan this year. Some years we have none. Each was full with a waiting list and we received many comments about participants returning if/when L tournaments were offered. Several traveled 200 miles or more. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted November 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 8, 2019 And, I don't care much if a tournament is L, R or C or E. So long as they are well run tournaments. All around here are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted November 8, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 8, 2019 Too windy to risk putting one on at our place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted November 8, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 8, 2019 "near" to me is within a 5 hour drive. Worth it for a good quality tournament. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted November 8, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 8, 2019 Harald Hintringer was one who traveled to our L tournament in August. He got 2@-41 in his last round (I think that included opting up from 35 to 39). After his round, which was about 1/2 hour before sunset, he said, “Now, I don’t even mind the 4 1/2 hour drive back in the dark”. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted November 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 8, 2019 I don't really need L/R but for slalom there are plenty nearby in SCR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted November 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 8, 2019 we need less L/R events not more, stupid waste of time and energy setting up all the tech and finding sr judges so a few juniors can qualify for Can-Am and Jr masters etc. They need to lower the qualification for these events to class C. E should only be used for when someone is going to break a national record. L is even a more stupid thing where everyone has to jump thru a bunch of hoops, follow a different rule book, just so a few top tier skiers can qualify for a Sr world event. Again class C should be fine for that. R should only be for Pro events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted November 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 8, 2019 @Bruce_Butterfield why does it have to be an L sanction to have a quality event. when we have had L events we use the same boats on the same lake with the same drivers as we do for a C event. Did the "quality" go down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted November 8, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 8, 2019 @disland +1 to that, we run our C's just the same as well, just more tower judges calling gates for the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted November 8, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 8, 2019 @disland I didn't mean to imply that an event had to be L to be good quality, only that the ones I drive to are worth the trip. Usually. And yes for the vast majority of skiers L/R events have no value added and are a big hassle for the organizers. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted November 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 8, 2019 @Bruce_Butterfield peace brother :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 8, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 8, 2019 L often ( not always ) means better driving and officiating Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted November 8, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 8, 2019 L also means end course video. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller John Brooks Posted November 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 8, 2019 I know I usually enjoy the class C events much more than the L/R events. Part of that is because I’m one of the organizers/hosts at our site where we host usually 2 L/R tours a year; and they are a ton of work. As others have said, the majority of skiers don’t need them. I believe if I want to attend one, I’m willing to drive 5 or 6 hours to get there ; that’s a drop in the bucket compared to my time investment at my lake hosting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted November 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 9, 2019 Lucky to have plenty of ELR tournaments within an hour drive here in Clermont Florida. I remember when I first moved to Florida a guy asked me if I knew the difference between a Record tournament and C tournament in Florida. His answer was $100.00. In may cases in Florida, you can register for C or ELR at the same site/tournament. You get the same judges/drivers regardless. I drove and judged many C tournaments as a Senior Driver and Senior Judge while also doing the ELR portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted November 9, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 9, 2019 We usually have the end course video going always, whether it’s C or not, it’s a great tool for helping drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted November 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 9, 2019 Seems there are a few pockets in the US with enough density of skiers and officials to pull off Records. Sacramento is one of them where it seems like we have records somewhere in that area nearly every weekend in the peak summer. A 2hr drive for me, and I consider that near. Heck, I typically drive 1-2 hrs each way just to practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 9, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 9, 2019 @bishop8950 how many TCs are there in Sac? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted November 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 10, 2019 @horton I believe 4 TCs in the SACTO area. At least 5 PanAms, easily 2 dozen senior judges and a dozen Senior Drivers. Not to leave out scoring and safety, but we have them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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