Baller utahslalom Posted July 14, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2020 Are there certain boats that are known to have a better slalom wake at 15off and slower speeds? I have a buddy that is ready to buy a new ski boat and he frequently skis 15-off/28-30mph. He is in his 60s and doesn't aspire to someday ski 35-off at 36mph. He just wants a good boat with a good wake that will get him through the longer line and the slower speeds. He's been looking at the newer TXi and Prostar but is open to almost anything if it will give him a good wake. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brettmainer Posted July 14, 2020 Members Share Posted July 14, 2020 All of the new boats are good, but IMO, the best wake ever at that speed was the Carbon Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MarkTimm Posted July 14, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2020 Can't beat the ProStar at all speeds an line lengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rico Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Prostar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Prostar. Then when he wants to try 22off.....Definitely Prostar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 15, 2020 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2020 ProStar Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 I’ll agree with @rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihacker Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 We went from an 04 Rlxi (which we really loved) to an 18 prostar, my wife lives at 15 off 28 mph and skis a lot better behind the prostar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 I would buy a 91-94 prostar, several Malibu's or just go whole hog and get a late model prostar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted July 15, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted July 15, 2020 1997 Bubble Butt SN. Hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Prostar will not only give you the best wake at slower speeds and longer line lengths but give you a lot of interior room and superb functionality. Easy choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted July 15, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted July 15, 2020 Bubble Butt Nautique. By far the best slalom wake at any speed. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Hard to beat the soft flat slalom friendly wake of the 91-94 MC PS190 for slow speeds at -15 through 36 at -35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Prostar by a mile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mlange Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 In our group we have a couple of women that ski at that speed and have (or have had) the following boats: '01 Bubble Butt '04 196 '12 and '14 200 '14 ProStar '12 and '16 RTXi It's not even close. Bubble Butt. After that they don't have any consistent preference. We also have one kid that skis 22-off @ 24.9. Some days she prefers her dad's ProStar... some my 200. When she was younger and skied ~20mph she preferred my old RTXi to her dad's ProStar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 If he has money for a new boat, then a Prostar seems to be the best among current models. I would actually suggest that the Prostar is a tiny bit better than my bubble butt, but both of them have absolutely fantastic wakes. TXi wake is bigger at those speeds/lengths, but typical for malibu is also pretty soft. 200 is just a bit bigger than mine, but not very soft. That's been my experience anyway. I haven't been able to rip the new Nautique, so I can't place it in there anywhere. I've also still never skied a carbon pro, so I can't comment on that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller hemlock Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 To the OP, forget about wakes. The color, or comfort features, or drive throttle, or cup holder will out weigh what the wake will actually give you pleasure in. Any direct drive boat you buy will have decent wakes. Look for other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin1980 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Centurion Carbon Pro if you can find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 https://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/23813/for-sale-2008-ski-nautique-196-limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Budget? Answer that and you'll get more precise answers... For now,it's anybody's call... My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller utahslalom Posted July 15, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 I think his budget is pretty flexible. He has looked at boats from $30k up to $70k. He just wants to pay a fair price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jercrane Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Good luck with that. There is no such thing as "fair price" for a ski boat :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 15, 2020 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2020 @utahslalom with a budget up to $70k he could easily get a 200 hr ProStar. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rpc29 Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 My fiance is getting pretty close to running the course at 26.7 mph @ 15 off. We ski behind a couple of different boats regularly, her power rankings would probably be as follows: 1. 2015 Carbon Pro 2. 1997 Nautique 196 3. 1995 Prostar 190 / 2008 Nautique 196 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller utahslalom Posted July 15, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 @Martin1980 found a Carbon Pro for my buddy (thank you), but it sounds like he doesn't love the closed bow and smaller interior of the Carbon Pro. He wants the ability to take a few family members with him on occasion. He just found a local 2018 Nautique 200 for sale, but we haven't seen that boat talked about much on this thread, so I think the ProStar is still at the top of his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihacker Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 The interior of the prostar is really nice and big, we've skied with 4 adults then did the picnic hang out afternoon with plenty of room, without even taking off the bow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 If interior space is now added, @rico is really right. Spotter seat is huge. Back seats are really nice too. Bow is low though, so loading 3-4 people in driver / spotter seat row + some Lbs in bow will likely = water over the nose. You need to get some folks in the back too to balance boat out, so find one w seats or order from dealer. If you could add the 2021 back seats to older Prostar that would be ideal solution in my mind. (No clue if that’s possible). They are much lighter to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 I'd want to ski behind a boat before buying, regardless if I were spending $15k or $75k. Your friend should find a promo Prostar to ski behind and drive to see how it feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 That said, I've skied behind 2019 and 2020 Prostars at 15 off 30 mph. The wake was shockingly small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 If this ad represents at all honestly what the boat is, it would be at the top of my list. Right here in the valley and with the big engine to make up for elevation. Being in Utah I assume it more likely than normal that you might want a tower and I might actually know a guy who would probably ditch his for a reasonable price. https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/55906270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted July 15, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted July 15, 2020 I’m gonna throw out another used one. 1998-2000 MC Sportster. I ski one when in MN. The owner is a 15off slow speed-ish skier. Surprisingly flat wakes for that line and speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted July 16, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted July 16, 2020 The Sporty is an awesome small wake boat at slower speeds. We sometimes play the game "how slow can you go at 15 off & still make a pass" - wake is never an issue. Only down side is pretty small interior and so light it does not track as well. I ski behind one every other week now for 8 years and love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2020 @Rednucleus different Sportster (think maybe it's Sportstar?). But I agree. The Malibu Sporty is so small and light, it makes tiny wakes at pretty much all speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted July 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2020 Mastercraft is Sportstar. Which was budget boat based on 95-97 Prostar hull I think. Malibu is sportster. Also budget boat, not sure what hull it was based on or if unique. It seemed to have a smaller but very firm wake. Small boat. I’d stay away from that for OP request, which “space” was added as desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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