Baller bananaron Posted August 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2020 Hey ballers what is the big difference between the syndicate omni and carbon omni.I had a VTR and liked it and now one of my ski partners wants one of the omni skis.He open water skis and usually skis at 34 and enjoys to slice up the calm glass water.Is it worth it to spend the extra bucks on the syndicate or will the carbon do the job.Any info would be appreciated.....thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYStarsandStripes Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Also very interested in this comparison as I currently ride a 2017 HO CX, which is, I believe, the predecessor to the Carbon Omni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bparson Posted August 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2020 I have a Syndicate omni. As the name says it is part of the syndicate line of skis. I believe It’s meant as more of a true crossover ski for the guy that’s actually trying to run the course. There is a video of @Horton running 28 & 32 off at 34mph on here. Also videos of Marcus Brown running passes. I think the Carbon Omni would be better suited for the open water/occasional course skier or someone just starting to learn to run passes. I think they are great skis. Last year was my first year back on the water in 15 years. The Omni made deep water starts easier and has allowed me to run passes to get back in ski shape and work on form/technique. I’m a left foot forward skier and used to hold the handle opposite what is taught. I’ve changed my grip and went from double Goode hardshells to the syndicate hardshell and rtp. I think the Omni made these transitions a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dockoelboto Posted August 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2020 I could be wrong but the I think the primary difference between the Syndicate and Carbon omni is the core material. Syndicate has a more high performance oriented core where as the carbon has a more forgiving core. I'm just learning to ski the course and have been on the carbon omni for the past few months. The carbon omni is a great ski, very stable/forgiving but has allowed my to progress and work on form while also completing full passes. I am skiing better than ever on the omni and am actually progressing. I don't think you can go wrong with either, if you are just free skiing, the carbon omni is a great way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2020 From the bottom up the base omni is not a carbon lamination with the regular foam core and the hex/non-adjustable fin. The carbon now gives you the adjustable fin but at first it came with a 3 position slider fin (type you could shim w/ electrical tape if needed) and a regular core, and then the syndicate is the higher end core and the adjustable fin. I think for 2020 all the carbons and syndicate omnis have had the adjustable fin and fin box but the older carbons did not. For the $ the syndicate omni is a good buy under a grand when all the other syndicates are 1800 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dockoelboto Posted August 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2020 I have a 2019 carbon omni - it has the syndicate fin box/fin and is adjustable. just FYI. Not that I know what to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bparson Posted August 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2020 @Dockoelboto a tap here and a bump there. That’s how one of my ski pals does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted August 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2020 I'm on a 2018 Carbon Omni but added the Syndicate fin. As a relative novice, it's more than enough for me to work on making 15 off 32 mph more consistent. The ski isn't what's holding me back, my poor form is to blame for that. I really don't think a free skier needs the Syndicate. Get the Carbon and use the money for gas, new bindings, or some other gear. I'd be shocked if your friend is disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHodge Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I can’t speak on the Carbon Omni, but I love my Syndicate Omni. I’ve owned a lot of skis over the years and this is hands down my favorite ski! Also adjusted to it very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller savaiusini Posted August 26, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2020 @bananaron Folks here are pretty much spot-on... Running surface is the same across all three versions... Syndicate Omni=PVC core, full carbon layup, fully adjustable fin. 60/40 Course/Open Water Carbon Omni=Machined PU core, glass/carbon layup, fully adjustable fin. 40/60 Course/Open Water Omni=Machined PU core, full glass layup, non-adjustable fin. 20/80 Course/Open Water Sam Avaiusini - HO Sports Company - Director of Inside Sales and Business Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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