Baller ral Posted May 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2021 Why on earth would someone with a good product everyone seems to like not ship as many as he can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted May 26, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted May 26, 2021 The owner is dealing with some huge health issues and has shut down to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted May 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2021 I for one and hoping that one day I can purchase another 2 to see me to the end of my skiing days. Bought one 2 years ago but should have bought more. I am going to give the latest ML Ergo a try to see if it can bridge the gap. Looks very much like the US Gear handle I have now and just a bit cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted May 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2021 The USG Handle was the best I have ever used. I too wish I would have ordered a dozen when I had the chance. For the last 2 years I've been using the ML Ergo which is a close 2nd. I know of no other choice, so it is what I'll be using for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted May 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2021 If they start offering the Ergo in dia other than 1 inch it would help. I have been using a 1.060 " and when I use a 1 inch it feels like it is cutting my fingers off. I hope I can get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted May 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2021 Curious, what was so different about the USG handles? I've never held one. Must be something notable to have such a following that others have not matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 26, 2021 Administrators Share Posted May 26, 2021 being a nice guy and having a good product does not guarantee good business practices. I loved the US Gear stuff but Randy wore me out (didn't pay his bills and didn't deliver product ) and gave all of you incredibly uneven customer service. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted May 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2021 @Horton I totally understand your position on this subject. If I ever win the lottery I will find Randy and buy his business to keep it going, pay all his bills including the one with you plus interest. Then I would fill all the orders that were shorted. @MDB1056 The USG handles are kinda like crack. Use it once and you are hooked for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbski Posted May 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2021 I have two. With my age I think they'll outlast me! It'd be hard to go back to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 @S1Pitts - ok so what’s special??? Weight, balance, rope, end caps, rubber thickness, durability, …. What is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 @MDB1056 all of the above. They are very durable, the rubber is grippy, they were made in various diameters, there are no end caps because the ends are an extension of the handle as they turn back in to make the yoke. This is one of the most outstanding features, which really eliminates mis-grabs or mishandles at the ends. You can accidently grab the curved end of the handle and still get leverage. Plus!!!!! THEY ALL FLOAT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 (F). All of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 @MDB1056 - @skibug nailed most of it but for me there is one more thing. I have skied with a both palms down grip since the mid 90's. There is no handle that anti-rolls like the USG but I hope the Ergo comes close. I switched because of elbow and forearm issues which all faded away and have never returned. The few select skiers I have let try the handle have all made an offer to try buy it from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted May 27, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted May 27, 2021 Also, the 12 inch will not fit over my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 @S1Pitts just something to consider is the In-tow anti-roll ARS handles. I have found them to be the closest to (actually better than) the ARS handles that Mello’s Ski Shop in San Pablo used to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 @ALPJr -It was a close decision between the In Tow ARS and the Ergo. I went with the Ergo because it looks to be the closest to the USG design. I do like the fact you can get the different dia. with the In Tow brand. It will be the next to try if the Ergo does not work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RGilmore Posted May 27, 2021 Members Share Posted May 27, 2021 Nobody seems to have mentioned yet that the US Gear handle pretty much eliminates ski damage due to "handle pop". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cnewbert Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 I'm surprised no one has reverse engineered this handle and starting making them. There is obviously an enthusiastic market for an equivalent and it doesn't appear as though the original is going to be revived any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted May 27, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted May 27, 2021 Need to source the suppliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted May 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 27, 2021 Where were they made? May still have inventory/ supplies. Somebody needs to buy it. Be the next Brenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted May 28, 2021 Baller Share Posted May 28, 2021 I know Randy strung handles because I was visiting with him on the phone as he strung my last one and I chose the colors in the spectra rope while he was working on it. He also explained to me he ground the handles in house to the various size dia which is why I have a custom size. Not saying he did it all but the knowledge to bring these handles into being might just rest with one man? In conversations with him over many years I always got the impression USG was a one man show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted July 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted July 8, 2021 I just put my new ML Ergo handle into service today. I can honestly say that while skiing I could not tell the difference between the two and grip material feel was spot on. ML advertises the Ergo as 1 inch dia but actual measurements put it at 1.069 which is only 0.001 smaller than my USG handle. Crazy.eh? ML has my dollar store FM handle guard knock off. Both feature my patented Bauer waxed skate lace fastening system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted July 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted July 8, 2021 @S1Pitts Was your US Gear size a 1.07 or is that the current measured diameter? I have been leery to go with the ML due to the 1" is just too small. I use the 1.06 US Gear and am down to my last handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted July 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted July 8, 2021 My Masterline with my duct tape guard/float My US Gear with MOB guard I use both. Yeah, the Masterline is probably twice as heavy as the US Gear (EDIT: .8 vs 1.2 lbs). The weight isn't a factor that affects my skiing. I ski the same with both. I have suggested this a couple times before. Masterline needs to make a float/guard. I think they could easily do this with the guard they are selling. Make that mesh a pouch that holds a piece of foam. No way I'd spend $50 bucks on that current version. Make it float! Make it a customizable accessory that matches your Eagle vest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted July 9, 2021 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2021 @Not_The_Pug I bought the USGear as a 1.072 handle and have 2 seasons on it so only a few thou wear. With my handle guards they weight virtually the same. USGear floats but ML does not so that is the only drawback but I am happy none the less with the ML because it has the right feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sethro Posted July 11, 2021 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2021 After an unfortunate incident while trick skiing a couple years ago, my ML ergo handle and rope found its way to the bottom of the river. My new ergo handle floats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted July 11, 2021 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2021 @Sethro get a guard. You gotta big head catcher…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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