Baller Mastercrafter Posted April 26, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2023 Need a new battery for my 2015 Prostar. It's got a $100 Menard's Marine battery in it which has lasted a few years and seems to start fine, but what are all the cool kids using these days? Sometimes the current battery seemed to crank a little slow, some decent CCA sure can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted April 26, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2023 I just use autozone myself. Never very far from an autozone and I've never had a battery that lasted one year not last five. Where as I've had optimas that weren't in stock at a local store go bad inside of their warranty and had to buy something else to get by. So I just go for what you can buy at whatever your closest auto parts chain is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member wski1831 Posted April 26, 2023 Supporting Member Share Posted April 26, 2023 I have a 17 mastercraft. I've had good luck with Interstate. That being said I replaced my battery last year before it went bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 2Valve Posted April 26, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2023 My current automotive style battery is going on 8 years. Got it at Costco if I recall. If it fails, I carry an Anti Gravity XP-1 Micro-Start. $300 -$400 Optima's are a bit of an overkill IMHO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpwhit Posted April 26, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2023 The slow starting on the 2014 - 2020 ProStars is because the battery is all the way in the back and the battery cables are very long. A higher CCA battery isn't going to improve it because the cables are the limiting factor, not the battery. I'm planed to move my battery in my 19 ProStar to the front, but I just haven't gotten to it yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Windsurfnut Posted April 26, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2023 How do you use the boat? Start/stop all the time only or hang out with radio running? Aftermarket stereo, subs? I've had a Blue OPTIMA Starting battery for years (8?) that is a bulletproof starting battery. For a ski boat that starts and stops all the time, and doesn't run accessories while off that have large loads for long periods, its been the best option. On another boat, that often sits at the local sand bar with tunes running and big subwoofers, I use the Exide Dual Purpose AGM batteries. They take a beating with heavy loads and deep discharges and still start the 502ci engine. These have been WOW batteries for me, never had I such long discharge times and good recovery. On the same boat the OPTIMA Deep Cycle batteries did not last very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cnewbert Posted April 26, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2023 @jpwhit hmmm… hard to imagine our ‘20 starting any faster. It’s virtually instant. We have the original Optima Blue Top and have 420 hours on the boat, so it get used a fair amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul Posted April 27, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2023 4 hours ago, jpwhit said: The slow starting on the 2014 - 2020 ProStars is because the battery is all the way in the back and the battery cables are very long. A higher CCA battery isn't going to improve it because the cables are the limiting factor, not the battery. I'm planed to move my battery in my 19 ProStar to the front, but I just haven't gotten to it yet. Agree with @jpwhit . After a year our battery started cranking slow with the 6.2L. I’d just put in thicker cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted April 27, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Cnewbert said: @jpwhit hmmm… hard to imagine our ‘20 starting any faster. It’s virtually instant. We have the original Optima Blue Top and have 420 hours on the boat, so it get used a fair amount You were having slow start issues though, no? What did you chase down to fix that one? I picked up another $100 Menards battery tonight.. current one has a 2019 date on it, so if I get 4-5 years on this, good enough. didn’t realize optima were so spendy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cnewbert Posted April 27, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2023 @Mastercrafter yes I did a while back. The problem was the fuel pump, or the check valve in the fuel pump if I recall correctly. The fuel pressure would drop after initial power up and the engine would have to crank an additional second or two to restore pressure. Warranty replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpwhit Posted April 27, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2023 We may be having a terminology disconnect. By slow, I mean the engine doesn't turn over as quickly (RPMs) during starting as it does on my other boats or cars. I don't mean that it takes long to start, it actually starts pretty quickly. When I hear the slow starting RPMs, it makes me feel like the battery is on it's last leg, but that's not the case. It's just the voltage drop on the long cables that make the starting RPMs lower than on most engine. If by slow, you mean it takes a long time for the engine to start, then that may be something else, such as the fuel pressure dropping like @Cnewbert is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chrislandy Posted April 27, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2023 In all my years boating, a battery is a battery, as long as it has enough capacity to stop/start a few times then the cheaper the better. Use it all summer, trickle charge in winter. Move it to the jump ramp and buy another when it's buggered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller epnault Posted April 27, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2023 Great luck with this battery and is the same our dealer puts in all new boats. I got 6 seasons and probably could have gone more but the cranking was reduced. https://www.interstatebatteries.com/products/24m-xhd Interstate 24M-XHD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted April 27, 2023 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2023 The DI motors tend to crank slow, that I've noticed at least. They run a lot of compression, maybe that has something to do with it. No reason to buy anything fancy, I have a Wal Mart Everstart from 2011 that is still going strong in one of our boats. A load tester is the key to determining if a battery is still good, great tool to have for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jerry44 Posted June 5, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2023 On 4/26/2023 at 3:55 PM, jpwhit said: The slow starting on the 2014 - 2020 ProStars is because the battery is all the way in the back and the battery cables are very long. A higher CCA battery isn't going to improve it because the cables are the limiting factor, not the battery. I'm planed to move my battery in my 19 ProStar to the front, but I just haven't gotten to it yet. I'd be curious to know exactly where you're going to put it. I might consider that myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 6, 2023 Administrators Share Posted June 6, 2023 interstate 24mxhd batteries or equivalent Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpwhit Posted June 6, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2023 12 hours ago, Jerry44 said: I'd be curious to know exactly where you're going to put it. I might consider that myself. I haven't picked an exact location, but somewhere in the storage area under/behind the observer's seat. I'd want to keep it on the port side of the boat to keep the side to side balance the same. It's one of those projects that may never happen because I have so many other projects on my list. Not sure this one will ever bubble to the top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted June 6, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2023 Have you considered replacing the battery cables with a larger gauge? It would seem like a more permanent solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baller jpwhit Posted June 6, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 hours ago, dvskier said: Have you considered replacing the battery cables with a larger gauge? It would seem like a more permanent solution. The ProStar wake improves a little if you put some weight in the nose. General consensus seems to be that's why they moved the battery up front in 2020+ ProStar's. So that's part of my goal, to move a little weight forward. So, adding heavier battery cables would be counter to that goal. And with this length of wire, a larger gauge is surprisingly heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted June 6, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2023 @jpwhit I believe the battery was moved to under the observer's seat in order to allow for a larger gas tank and require less battery wiring. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jerry44 Posted June 6, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Broussard said: @jpwhit I believe the battery was moved to under the observer's seat in order to allow for a larger gas tank and require less battery wiring. Is that on the 2021s and later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted June 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2023 @Jerry44 Correct, the 2021+ ProStar has a 30 gallon fuel tank compared to a 25 gallon tank in the 2014-2020. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpwhit Posted June 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Broussard said: @jpwhit I believe the battery was moved to under the observer's seat in order to allow for a larger gas tank and require less battery wiring. Exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted June 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2023 If you have a Rural King nearby, you can't beat their warranty or prices. My theory is get the largest battery that will fit in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted June 7, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted June 7, 2023 I ended up going with the $99 Menards marine starting battery as I've used them in the past with decent results, but go figure, I got a dud. Dead on arrival and wouldn't charge. They took the return and I picked up a Napa branded battery for about $110, works just fine. @jpwhit I was under the impression the battery ground went right to the engine and the "+" cable to one side of the starter, then the rest of the boat's power (to the master switch up front) was drawn off that post. Admittedly, I haven't really looked and followed the cables. Are you pretty certain the + goes all the way up front then back to the starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted June 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Has to go up if it's a battery switch. Unless you want the power switch to not cut off the whole boat... maybe? Like always if troubleshooting cranking run jumper cables in parallel to the battery wires. Connect ground , connect hot, connect both. If it doesn't change the start condition its battery or starter I'd it does its a connection. If it's one or the other it's the wire or the crimp. If it needs both to start better it's the condition of the whole system and all the wires should be replaced with the largest tinned marine wire you can justify. As a side note... it's not bad if a boat has say a 2 gauge wire to replace it with large say 0 gauge. Or you can run a second 2 gauge in parallel with the first. Either alone is sufficient and 2 gives you redundancy. No real issue Edited June 7, 2023 by BraceMaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted June 7, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted June 7, 2023 Good results using AC Delco's in years past, most recent is a Deka going on 9 years (holy crap, didn't realize it was that old!). Usage is ski tractor, no tunes or sitting around with ancillaries going other than blower. Slightly elevated compression ratio & advanced timing and starter is used after / between each ski set. Guess I'll give the Deka a double thumbs up:-) although I should go get a new one. As for moving battery, +1 for a few of reasons, 1 being the 45 lbs moving forward & 2 maybe shorter cables and 3 under the bow seat should be a drier location. I actually moved y battery farther over to port side to help balance. It is 'free' ballast if you want to use it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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