Baller JL5 Posted June 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hello BOS. I'm a brand new member and a bit of a rookie, but I'm looking for information or a recommendation on someone who could inspect a used Malibu in the Lake Placid FL (2 hours south of Orlando). I live in NH and am interested in the boat and am trying to avoid having to fly down myself, so obviously I'm looking to hire someone to go through it, check compression etc. in hopes of buying the boat and having it transported up north. Any suggestions and or recommendations on an individual would be greatly appreciated. TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted June 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2023 Lake Placid Marine is a Malibu dealer. 1) I'd guess they know the owner and can vouch for him if they're inclined or 2) seller can bring there. Not the time of year for their shop to get sidetracked with an inspection I wouldn't think, but could no doubt be done. Listing of boat? Tons of feedback available from people here based on the year, model, condition, etc. If it's an "older" monsoon 350 I wouldn't even bother with a compression check. If the rest of the boat looks good the engine was taken care of too. If it's running now, it'll continue to run for you most likely. Most catastrophic engine failures are due to an acute failure (impeller/overheat/winterization etc). I've bought several Malibus sight unseen. Never worried about the mechanicals and they've all run great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller m_pags Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 @JL5 I'm in Lake Placid until Sunday and could possibly take a look at it. PM me your contact info if you would like to talk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JL5 Posted June 8, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 Mark , that would be great. PM sent. buechsr 16 hours ago, buechsr said: Lake Placid Marine is a Malibu dealer. 1) I'd guess they know the owner and can vouch for him if they're inclined or 2) seller can bring there. Not the time of year for their shop to get sidetracked with an inspection I wouldn't think, but could no doubt be done. Listing of boat? Tons of feedback available from people here based on the year, model, condition, etc. If it's an "older" monsoon 350 I wouldn't even bother with a compression check. If the rest of the boat looks good the engine was taken care of too. If it's running now, it'll continue to run for you most likely. Most catastrophic engine failures are due to an acute failure (impeller/overheat/winterization etc). I've bought several Malibus sight unseen. Never worried about the mechanicals and they've all run great. That is where it is on consignment. It's an early 2000's with the monsoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bananaron Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 @JL5 Like previously mentioned get a dealer to inspect the boat.I have down this many times and have found they will do it for you for a fee.They can hook up the laptop and ck for things.Also get a baller who lives close to give the boat a test drive and the once over video.Ballers on this site are fantastic when it comes to boats.Get it checked out to be sure it functions properly.......Buy the baller a gift certificate to performance ski 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, JL5 said: Mark , that would be great. PM sent. buechsr That is where it is on consignment. It's an early 2000's with the monsoon. Then have them do it! Post the link and you'll get plenty of feedback on it here. is it the 06 response lxi or the sunsetter lxi? Edited June 8, 2023 by buechsr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JL5 Posted June 8, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 01 Sunsetter. m_pags is going to graciously go check it out for me. There are still good people in this world! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 Beautiful boat. Exact same color scheme as my dad's '01 Sunsetter. I'll PM you some things to check that I see from the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 I don't think you have anything to worry about mechanically. Notably, there is no rust residue seeping from the gasket between the risers and exhaust manifolds. Had that been present, the gasket is compromised and while not a big deal necessarily in and of itself, the fact that there is no residue means it was either addressed promptly, or the integrity of the exhaust/water jackets are in tact. The gauge cracking is typical of that era, eventually. Those gauges are at times hard to come by and spendy, but perfect pass would fix one of them. The dash shows minor sunburn. I note seperation of the vinyl at the seams in the rear. Not terrible yet, but should be on your radar. Notably, the trunk vinyl has been replaced. For a 22 year old Florida boat, not uncommon, but it was not likely a garaged boat. I am somewhat concerned by the port carpet near the hull. That "pull" up could be indicative of it "sinking" on the trailer/lift. In other words, bilge filled with water with the plug in. Slight waterline at bottom of observer seat "could" confirm the same. Alternator is also particularly pitted, suggestive of storage with the clamshell closed, or that it "sunk" on the trailer. Although, there is evidence of usage of a "BIMP ring" (those in central florida will know the reference), which is good. That said, that's a smoking price for what is a fantastic boat. At absolute worst, a new 350 costs less than $5,000 last time I needed one. Still a great price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) @JL5I have to agree with you. @m_pags is the best! Edited June 8, 2023 by schafer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 I own a Sunsetter lxi - skis fantastic. I think there price is a tad high and I know of another deal in Arkansas if you're interested PM me. I also had cracking gauges on my 2003 and fixed it myself with new lenses if you are interested in that info (I'm not going to say it was super easy, but doable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 ski dad, you think a sslxi in what appears to be 7-8/10 with less than 800 hours and a tower a tad "high" at 21,500? Second cheapest in the country that I've seen...and has a tower. Please share others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 I'm not saying the price is bad. I agree with you most of these are going around 25k. The one I saw today was on Water Ski Swag for Sale on FB and was a 2000 for 16k. I don't think a link would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 @JL5 I just direct messaged you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 Is there an HDS (?) box around the prop shaft like the Response on the SS ? My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Andre said: Is there an HDS (?) box around the prop shaft like the Response on the SS ? yes. That was in the list I sent him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JL5 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted June 9, 2023 Swing and a miss! M_pags checked her out and there were few too many questionable things going on. Generally just a little rougher than what I want to deal with. I'm pretty convinced the Sunsetter LXI is the boat for me, (great wake, walk through bow, large sun pad for lounging at the sandbar etc.), so if anyone knows someone considering selling in the 20k range, please shoot me a message. Thanks for all of the input and help. -J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted June 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 12:52 PM, JL5 said: Swing and a miss! M_pags checked her out and there were few too many questionable things going on. Generally just a little rougher than what I want to deal with. I'm pretty convinced the Sunsetter LXI is the boat for me, (great wake, walk through bow, large sun pad for lounging at the sandbar etc.), so if anyone knows someone considering selling in the 20k range, please shoot me a message. Thanks for all of the input and help. -J like what? a 20k 20 year old design (that is still sought after) in better condition that that boat will be a tall order IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 9:52 AM, JL5 said: Swing and a miss! M_pags checked her out and there were few too many questionable things going on. Generally just a little rougher than what I want to deal with. I'm pretty convinced the Sunsetter LXI is the boat for me, (great wake, walk through bow, large sun pad for lounging at the sandbar etc.), so if anyone knows someone considering selling in the 20k range, please shoot me a message. Thanks for all of the input and help. -J There was a 1999 SSLXi for sale here in the PHX metro on FB marketplace last week. I don't have FB so I can't hunt it down for you, but might be worth a look. If it's still there, I could go check it out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JL5 Posted June 29, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted June 29, 2023 UPDATE: Well, after M_pags checked out the Florida boat, I took his advice and held off with the consideration of spending a bit more for something nicer. That 99 that UWSkier mentioned would have been an absolute steal, but it was gone by the time I joined the FB page. Oh well, I'm still glad that I held off on the FL 2001! I found this 2000 SSLXi for 1k more, with less hours and in FAR better shape! I'm pretty psyched and hoping for decent weather in the next few days to get it out on the water. Thank you for all of the input and advice. 2000 Malibu Sunsetter LXi - Google Photos 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Vernon Reeve Posted June 29, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2023 I personally prefer the 2003-2006 Malibu Response LXI. Less roomy, but IMO better wake and handling. By handling, I mean easier to get the rope to the skier. And bat turns are fun for passengers that have never experienced one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted June 29, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Vernon Reeve said: I personally prefer the 2003-2006 Malibu Response LXI. Less roomy, but IMO better wake and handling. By handling, I mean easier to get the rope to the skier. And bat turns are fun for passengers that have never experienced one:) I ski my 03 Sunsetter lxi and my partners 05 Response lxi regularly - the wake and handling is identical 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted June 29, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 hours ago, JL5 said: UPDATE: Well, after M_pags checked out the Florida boat, I took his advice and held off with the consideration of spending a bit more for something nicer. That 99 that UWSkier mentioned would have been an absolute steal, but it was gone by the time I joined the FB page. Oh well, I'm still glad that I held off on the FL 2001! I found this 2000 SSLXi for 1k more, with less hours and in FAR better shape! I'm pretty psyched and hoping for decent weather in the next few days to get it out on the water. Thank you for all of the input and advice. 2000 Malibu Sunsetter LXi - Google Photos Congrats, that's great news!! I would change that prop out for an ACME 515 or 525 - i think you have one of the CVP props that are not safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 29, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2023 I recommend the ACME 525 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjs1295 Posted June 29, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Ski_Dad said: Congrats, that's great news!! I would change that prop out for an ACME 515 or 525 - i think you have one of the CVP props that are not safe Sorry if I'm asking a dumb question, but why is the prop not safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted June 30, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Assuming the stainless prop would be a CVP, which was OE in the day. There are a few that flung one of the blades off due to the weld at the hub failing. Edited June 30, 2023 by DW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted June 30, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted June 30, 2023 Lake Placid, FL is named after Lake Placid, NY. 1 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller m_pags Posted June 30, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2023 @JL5 Jason Congrats on your boat purchase! So glad it all worked out. @lpskier Yes it is. The Dewey Decimal System guy (Melvil Dewey) was behind the renaming of Lake Stearns, FL to Lake Placid, FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted June 30, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2023 23 hours ago, tjs1295 said: Sorry if I'm asking a dumb question, but why is the prop not safe? the CVP's had a bad history of tossing a blade - my boat came with it and i looked and all the blades were weak at the hub i replaced it immediately. What a difference the Acme prop - smoother and better acceleration. I just thought it was worth mentioning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 30, 2023 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ski_Dad said: the CVP's had a bad history of tossing a blade - my boat came with it and i looked and all the blades were weak at the hub i replaced it immediately. What a difference the Acme prop - smoother and better acceleration. I just thought it was worth mentioning. Mine came with one of those too. It's a bookshelf adornment in my office these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gale K Posted July 1, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2023 OK, good info on the prop... how does one know if it's a CVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted July 1, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2023 here was a picture of my old one - I'm pretty sure it's the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted July 1, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted July 1, 2023 @Gale K CVP will be stamped on the hub face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted July 1, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted July 1, 2023 @m_pags Dewey started my prep school (Northwood School) and The Lake Placid Club, where I did a lot of my growing up. Before the advent of winter sports, Lake Placid, FL was to be the winter home for both. Hence the name change for the Florida property, which was a condition of its purchase. 1 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gale K Posted July 1, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2023 18 hours ago, DW said: @Gale K CVP will be stamped on the hub face. Thanks. I can't see CVP specifically, but it's gotta be one. 2000 Response, SS. There are numbers stamped there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted July 1, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted July 1, 2023 Those should be 13 x 13, that with an M after or an MD after. The standard CVP prop they used was a standard 13 x 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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