Baller Morg Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Howdy, Any input on the ski wake? Looking for a boat that dad can still do morning ski's and the kids can wake & surf. Thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 It's big. if you're looking for a skiable vdrive look for an 01-04 malibu sunscape/wakesetter 21 (LSV) with the diamond hull or any VTX. Much better ski wakes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Morg Posted July 10, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Been reading since I posted and yes reading the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 10, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2023 it really depends on how advanced and or serious your dad is about slalom skiing. either a boat makes big wakes or it makes small wakes. generally it can't do both well. Malibu does seem to have an edge in this category with their wedge but even then it's like asking for a dedicated race car with seating for seven and towing capacity. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Morg Posted July 10, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Horton said: it really depends on how advanced and or serious your dad is about slalom skiing. either a boat makes big wakes or it makes small wakes. generally it can't do both well. Malibu does seem to have an edge in this category with their wedge but even then it's like asking for a dedicated race car with seating for seven and towing capacity. Absolutely agree. BTW - I am dad. I know I am not going to match the ski wake from my 00' Ski Centurion eclipse direct drive. But looking for something that will be a good compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Morg Posted July 10, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, buechsr said: It's big. if you're looking for a skiable vdrive look for an 01-04 malibu sunscape/wakesetter 21 (LSV) with the diamond hull or any VTX. Much better ski wakes. Any idea on whether this is a Diamond hull? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/625926885950873/?ref=category_feed&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ae2d21576-c69f-49ce-bff1-066a464f1907 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 that is a diamond but thats a 23 footer. Big difference in wakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 10, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2023 Again the question is how much do you really care about the wakes. If you really want to surf and wake board it is a different boat than if you really want slalom. furthermore, most wakeboarders do not need the huge wakes they think they need. If it is beginning wakeboarders a slalom boat is not terrible. If it is intermediate or advanced wake boarding a slalom boat is mostly useless. You do not need waist high wakes to learn to jump the wakes and maybe your first few wakeboard tricks. 1 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Hallpass Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Prior Generation of 210 Super Air, flattened out for rec skiing if you were willing to go 36 mph. But by 2012, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andy Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Have you considered a 200V? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 what about X-14 DD? I have heard that the boat is based on a 197? anyone ski it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 I used to sell Nautiques in that era and I would never consider skiing behind a 210. Nice boat otherwise. Horton is right. People tend to compensate for their lack of skill by adding weight to make a bigger wake. My son surfs my prostar with no added ballast. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 Get a great water ski boat and use it with your kids. That’s the best compromise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 11, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted July 11, 2023 Sell the kids and buy a 200. What about a Response with the wedge? Bigger wake when u need it 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Morg Posted July 12, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 Hey guys, just trying to get a boat that is more well rounded to skiing, wake boarding & surfing. Anyone know if this has the Diamond Hull? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/212348425085622?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A99429bba-4dce-4a32-b561-b8e8394e6843 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 I feel like we need to collaborate to write up some sort of standardized documentation that we can just link to each of the 10 times this exact issue comes up each summer. The document would be titled: "So you failed as a parent and now your kids don't want to ski with you?" We would then go through and detail all the various models labeled as "crossover" boats over the years at all the various price points, and let the poor sap know just exactly how terrible his wake is going to have to be with each model. Do something like rate each ski wake on a scale of 0-10 wakeboards to let him know the likelihood of even enjoying skiing at all behind said boat. The SSLXI would obviously be the top of the list rated at just one wakeboard and then we would start heading down from there. By the time we get to like a X23 it would be rated at like 9 wakeboards and the guy would just understand that if he buys this boat, he may as well sell his waterski and just consider himself a surfer from now on. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted July 13, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2023 https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=67499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 18, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2023 So does the VTX always have the Diamond Hull? Or do you need to be looking for that specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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