Baller Ronny61 Posted December 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 10, 2023 https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=69071 Is this a fair price for a loaded SS LXI ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted December 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 10, 2023 In my opinion way too high of price for 24 year old boat. My buddy has a 2003 lxi nice slalom wake. If he could get 30k he would sell it tomorrow. I would ask $24.900 to start. Which is still high considering the time of season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 10, 2023 @foxriverat Thanks for the reply, so if this boat that is loaded with so many extras is only worth 25k then a same low hour lxi in this same cond. with nothing added to it would only be worth 15-18k ? If I could find one for this price then I would buy it tomorrow. Only the market will provide the real answer but still interested in others opinions on the value of this boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted December 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 10, 2023 "Extras" on a 25-year old boat will help sell it compared to comparably priced boats of the same age but don't tend to add a lot of $ value over book. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted December 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 10, 2023 @Ronny61 like I said just my opinion. Here's a 2005 lxi it's not apples to apples comparison to yours. It's been for sale since April. Now down to $22k https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=66420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted December 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 Since COVID boat prices have been out of whack, but I'd say between 23-25k for this boat. And like @foxriverat alluded to, one would also expect prices in the winter to be generally lower than they are in the spring or mid summer, so that makes this boat even more over priced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 11, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 Appreciate the replies and input based on responses it looks like this boat would be worth no more than 10k based on the comparison between the 2 ? The interior is basically shot which can easily cost 4-5k, it does not have tower, racks, Bimini, 5k, PP, $1500, heater ,1500, $4000 integrated ballast system, etc., etc. all things most people are looking for in a nice crossover boat. not to mention it needs other mechanical work You would have to spend anywhere from 15-20k depending how much work you do yourself to make this boat comparable to mine I think with a boat like mine it really depends on the buyer and how much value they see in the way it is set up I don’t need to sell it this winter so no hurry really, will be curious to see what kind of offers are presented moving to retire in the Philippines next fall is only reason it’s even for sale , would love to take it with me but the logistics, duties and saltwater environment doesn’t make sense to do it. https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=67429 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lars Posted December 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 New cost of features <> depreciated value of features. PP is kind of expected for anyone skiing the course looking at a 20 year old boat. Also towers and ballast are very polarizing, nice features for the right buyer at best and an annoyance to others. Here is what others will also be looking at, this is what 25k gets you: https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=67708 https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=66420 here is what 32k gets you, 10 years newer and zero off for starters: https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=68191 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted December 11, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted December 11, 2023 Have you had the boat appraised by a certified appraiser? That will provide you with an unbiased evaluation of value. The appraiser would need to be well versed in the ski boat business and know what that boat is, you are correct in it being a boat that really appreciated by those that own one. As noted, the asking price is well above the going rate for a similar boat. If the buyer comes along that places the same value on the condition and extras a deal may happen. If it gets to the 'need to sell' point, the selling price will be adjusted accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MitchellM Posted December 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 This is a great example of someone who values all of the extras and unique features of their own boat, but will have to realize that they don't actually translate to dollars when selling. Sure, he gets some dollars for low hours and nice interior, but this is still a 2000 LXi. I just purchased a 2005 LXi in good condition with 500 hours for $25k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted December 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 I have a 2003 LXI in almost same colors. Great boat! Your price should be closer to 25k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted December 11, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted December 11, 2023 Some folks have posted links comparing the boat in question, which is a Sunsetter LXi, to the Response LXi. It is not an apples to apples comparison - those are vastly different boats and hulls. That said, the boat in question is a nice boat and should ski very well, but the price does seem high. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 11, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 This is probably the best comparison out there , one year newer, similar condition and same low hours with the exception of no tandem trailer, new version PP, 3 outlet heater with pump, dual batteries with switch and idolater, 3k integrated ballast system, wakeboard tower, Bimini, swivel racks, surf rack, etc, etc for a total of a minimum 15k in extras like I said these boats typically sell for around 25k bare bones boat. if you only use 50% of value for all the extras you are around 32k can you imagine what the bill would be if you took this boat to your local dealer and had them ad everything to it that is on mine with the same level of craftsmanship on the install? I think anyone looking for this particular boat or any other similar crossover that is loaded with every convenience available and wants to do all things water sports with a highlight on slalom will easily see the value in my boat , sure it’s a smaller audience but I believe he or she is out there? https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2001-malibu-sunsetter-lxi-9088910/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 11, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 @MISkier you are correct, I think of a Response lxi as a pure slalom boat and the SS lxi as a true crossover boat...not apples to apples and a different buyer. Because the LXI is such a good crossover boat and only made for 5 model years there is a supply / demand balance in favor of the seller with a clean, low hour loaded boat capable of maximizing the full potential of it's crossoverness (pretty sure that's not a real word) with the most convenience possible in switching over from one discipline to another. No reason not to start at the higher price if not in a hurry to sell and let the market determine the true value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted December 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 11, 2023 I don't think you are ever going to get 50% of the value of "extras" tacked onto a 25 year old boat. That's just not how used boats generally get valued. But it doesn't matter what you or I independently think. The only thing that matters is what a willing buyer and willing seller agree on as far as price. So no harm in listing for what you think it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted December 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 12, 2023 Nice boat will be surprised if it sells near the asking. I really love that hull and it's flexibility--one of the classics. Listed at $25K I'd probably point it out to my nephew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 12, 2023 Here is a nice one with same low hours for 25k…although it is basically naked I think this is what someone gets for that price, the loaded up one will cost more for obvious reasons https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2001-malibu-sunsetter-lxi-9088910/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted December 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 12, 2023 Loaded up can't add 7K in a 20 year plus used environment in my opinion--but it's just that. If you sell for your price that is great---but you asked the question and are getting opinions--none of which said the price is reflective so far on your boat. Maybe there is a happy medium, maybe you will sell for your price--time will tell. Really nice boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MitchellM Posted December 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 12, 2023 13 hours ago, Ronny61 said: Here is a nice one with same low hours for 25k…although it is basically naked I think this is what someone gets for that price, the loaded up one will cost more for obvious reasons https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2001-malibu-sunsetter-lxi-9088910/ That boat is at a dealer which usually means a bit of a premium. Plus it looks like it's been on the market for a while with no takers. Obviously not priced competively. It is a clean, low hours boat, but it is 23 years old and likely worth around $20k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted December 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 12, 2023 16 hours ago, Ronny61 said: Here is a nice one with same low hours for 25k…although it is basically naked I think this is what someone gets for that price, the loaded up one will cost more for obvious reasons https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2001-malibu-sunsetter-lxi-9088910/ That's not an LXi. Dealer who listed it doesn't know what they're doing. That's a Sunsetter. Different animal than the SS LXi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sethro Posted December 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, UWSkier said: That's not an LXi. Dealer who listed it doesn't know what they're doing. That's a Sunsetter. Different animal than the SS LXi. Good eye...and it's been for sale at that price for a lengthy time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 12, 2023 @UWSkier correct, it's an LX...I just glanced at it and the title, if it was an LXI it probably would have sold by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted December 13, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 13, 2023 another LX that seems like a good deal great slalom boat https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/284394380648001/?mibextid=dXMIcH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 14, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 14, 2023 @RAWSkiThat looks like a pretty economical way to get into the sport for someone....seems like a great deal, hard to find anything under 12-15k these days that is worth a darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 14, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 14, 2023 Compare with this Sportster LX for 10k more.... https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=69042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted December 14, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted December 14, 2023 Sportster is a different animal so not a fair comparison - and that one looks very nice for the dedicated skier & bare footer. Bet you could get him down to 15k. Glad both my pals already have one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted December 14, 2023 Author Baller Share Posted December 14, 2023 @Rednucleus was comparing to the other sportster that Rawski posted on Facebook for only 8k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted December 14, 2023 Baller Share Posted December 14, 2023 Sorry guys that was my mistake I agree the Sporter is very different and wasn't t a fair comparison. I meant to include a 2000 Response LX near me but its gone now. But I did find the same hull in a 99 close bow that seems like a good deal for a very good boat. Doesn't have the room or open bow of an LXi but I wouldnt turn down a pull behind it. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7818154728210987/?mibextid=dXMIcH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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