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Can't vote as my New Zealand season starts in 5 days time 😊

Because new is typically better. Not always, and certainly not always in the first year of release, but after a few years of tweaks new products are almost always better than the past (erven if it's also being tweaked). Not that a Vapor boot will definitely make me ski better but maybe it will.

So 2 votes for spend the money and upgrade 🙂 It'll be direct mounted, no release. I use a HO RTP on rear. How's their sizing compare to more running shoes? No shops around here stock them so I can't try for fit.

I've currently got a 2019 Senate pro with a old 2000's Animal Superfeet binding. There's nothing wrong with the binding however I know it won't last forever so I'm thinking now might be the time to replace it. I ski 18.25m (15' off) in public lake with a course and would love to always be in course, but reality is other boat wakes or wind make course time only about 20% of my ski time. Would the Vapor boot be too stiff for mixed water conditions? Here's the binding I'm considering and the type of Animal I'm currently using https://www.hyperride.co.nz/product/212468/radar-2023-vapor-boot-carbitex-boa-left

Are you all aware in USA that you can now buy disposable AEDs not much bigger then mobile phone and low cost? They're about US$385 https://cellaed.io/au/cellaed https://pracmednz.com/product/cell-aed/

Great result! Well done to all involved. Regarding CPR statistics, don't believe the numbers. As a volunteer fireman/first responder, we are told to ignore the numbers and do our best in all circumstances. Yes, we are informed that the chance of survival in a hospital is better than in an urban environment, and even better than in rural situations to which I respond. Improvement in survival is mainly due to the speed of our response and AED. However, we are also told that the cause of the event is the major influencer. For example, the chance of recovery is far worse for an age related medical event such as cardiac arrest, even with swift medical attention, compared to accident events like drowning or electric shock, especially if a young person. So, the moral here is to ignore the numbers, do your best, hope for a miracle, but don't beat yourself up if it "fails". Importantly, know that you have done nothing wrong if you gave it your all.

Can buy PerfectPass in mechanical servo version or DBW version

Interesting. You're thinking the available engine torque could be much more significant to skier feel than control via PP vs ZO. To get a proper skier feel comparision it'd have to be based on back to back ski sets at same course using identical hulls with identical DBW engines, similiar engine hours, identical prop. One with PP & Zbox, other with ZO. Probably only possible using two boats from late 2000s since newer boats tend to have ZO integrated in from day one.

@Scott RussellI don't think it's what ZO takes from the engine management but what the ZO gives to it, or more specifically how quickly it gives the more power less power signal to the engine. With throttle servo motor and carb or basic EFI there's more time delay involved and there's no direct engine feedback. In my opinion for having fun and non tournament skiers it really does not matter. For lower end tournament skiers it probably also doesn't matter, but it's a 'feel' sport so the skiers tell themselves it's does matter and likely many even convince themselves that's why they don't ski pro level. LOL, spoiler, that'd not be why and it's actually them, not the boat, or ski, or rope, or vest, or shorts that holding back their scores😂

Only 2 for me 2002 Response LX 310h carb and now 2003 Response LXi 340hp EFI. Can't see us changing for many years, if ever.

Agree. They make them and they sell. Not much incentive to do simple 'adequate for purpose' towboats when it'd just increase the overall company costs and the profit per boat would be lower. Got to wonder how good the wakes and tracking would be of a stripped down lighter weight latest design tow boat? The Pista01 is <75% the weight of the others. Perhaps the others have grown and have extra weight to improve the tracking? If that's the case it might as well be luxuries than just dead weight somewhere. Perhaps the extra size is the result of the extra luxuries and not from seeking wake or tracking improvements? Which comes first, size or weight? Does weight improve tracking? Does size improve wake? Who knows!!!! Complex topic

and more luxuries or 'features' that aren't needed to improve the tow but affluent skiers will want and buy them anyway

Molds aren't cheap to make but if making a run of say 30 hulls from it the mold creation cost per hull wouldn't be significant part of the total

Intention of my original post was a highlight it is possible to build a new boat with new everything for much lower price than offered by big 3. Extension of that thought is what has driven up the prices so much? Yes resin, engine, etc have gone up but if Sanger can sell a package at that price it seems like it could only be plusher seats, some touch screens, vast amounts of seadek, etc. Is that justifiably worth an extra $30k? Intention was not to start arguments if the Sanger is any good, if you would buy it, where it fits in market, etc.

Anyone wanting brand new and prepared to spend $70k is also likely to be willing to spend $100k. Will probably appeal more to those considering a fairly new but used boat and then seeing this brand new at similar price. Discussion needs to be is the difference justifiable. The Sanger has the same or similar basics as a current top 3 so if we pretend that enough boats are built by each that R&D and tooling costs can be ignored (which they can't but for sake of argument lets ignore them) is the extra $30k the top 3 charge for their boats justifiable considering the difference is plusher seats, some touch screens, vast amounts of seadek, etc? i.e. if the hull, trailer, engine, transmission cost the same the difference is the fitout and electronics package. Is that justifiably worth $30k?

Yes, it's not a pure slalom or 3 event boat but these brand new limited run Sangers show that it should be possible to produce significantly lower cost direct drives than the big 3 are doing https://www.facebook.com/100063602334599/posts/pfbid023CtgKhroXy5Lk8JCkcSjzTGgGksL6MSipKZaEFTfSzDkMquNCSEs3VpKzMY4PHo8l/?mibextid=y6Gskv

I hope this won't get me kicked off BOS 😄

There's others too. I've not fitted one but seriously considering it. Some have two sensors (for engine and transmission) and can be programmed to whatever alarm temperature you want. http://enginewatchdog.com/index.html https://engineguard.com.au/

Does anyone need PerfectPass parts? Or a Malibu tacho? This is one of the hard to find combo tacho/PerfectPass displays. Just been removed from 2003 Response as upgraded to StarGazer. Fully functional and good condition. 1) Combo tacho and PerfectPass 2) PerfectPass DigitalPro master module 3) PerfectPass Smart Timer (magnet sensor) 4) PerfectPass Fall Timer Can post worldwide. Payment via cash if pickup or Paypal if shipped.

I've seen comments online by a person who said they were there (so take it was you will! Might be fake comments, might be real). Apparently guide buoy wedged between prop, strut and hull, and it wasn't stainless steel course wire being hooked. If I recall correctly he said 1/2" poly rope to an smallish anchor block and it didn't move. Said stopping and transom uplift was all the buoy and stalled prop, and not a huge anchor and wire.

We're using Hovercraft on boom as a beginner ski, skipping the combos stage.

If you want to go really slow and have fun get a HO Hovercraft. 18-20mph is its speed range. Can run a course then can jump, slash the wakes surfer style, even flip if you're really keen

I added an hourmeter onto my 2kW portable generator recently. It displays rpm and engine hours and it's simply has a wire tail that needed to be wrapped around the spark plug lead a few times. Could you do something like that to get an tach pulse?

Ah ok. You weren't specific about that in your first post. I'm also aware the currently available displays won't work with DigitalPro, unless it has been 6.5ng chipped. In fact that's the reason why I have a StarGazer upgrade kit currently sitting at home ready to put into my boat soon. Wife finds the existing single display a bit tricky to navigate as previous our RLX had 6.5ng and multiline display so she'd become familiar with that menu system.

Buy the one that's the colour you prefer 😁 Reality is there will be incremental differences each year, but what works best for your skiing technique and budget may not be the latest evolution. Ski them if you can. FYI I've got a 2019 Senate pro build. Love it! Oh, apart from the colour of the rear top deck. I must sticker it sometime as it'll make me ski better 😂