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 69" Senate C. Bought new last season. Tip was damaged slightly and ixed with JB Weld from a handle pop.  Will sell with case. In Ohio. email at amjbishop at  yahoo  dot com

Yes but those things work on either. When I remember to counter rotate on my onside it is so much better. When I don't it is usually due to a lousy offside pull so I have to rush a turn.

One thing that always helps me is to take your right hand at one ball and put it back on your outside right hip after releasing the handle. This helps keep you chest up going into the turn and then I come around the ball and ski my hip / hand to the handle, not reaching across my body. As soon as you reach with your chest down the ski will simply not finish. Another thing is to make sure you are not on a flat ski going into one balll. Edge hard behind the boat and make a definite edge change going into one ball with your chest up. Master this and you will be skiing into 28 off the same day!

Can someone measure the width of an A1 or S1 68.5" preferably, and note the distance from tip on the measuring points.  Measure tip, middle, and tail. Would like to compare it to my 67" Goode and 69" Senate C. Thanks AB

I liked my EP Comp X2 so much I bought a second one when the graphics changed! Still have one somewhere.  The ski I should have kept was my 9100 240AMP. Never found a ski that I liked as much. Got too crazy with a brillo pad. /vanillaforum/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif

What is the setup on the Senate C that seems to be a good starting point? I bought a 69" last year and the stock fin settings left the ski hanging out on the offside turns. Adding length really didn't help much and hurt onside, so I tried the standard Goode fin (more belly on it like me) and that worked better, but still not the same pizazz that my old 9500 has. Ended up running the fin pretty deep 2.530 range, and over 6.920 on length (Goode method). Running 34 mph, and could only get 3 or 4 at 35 off, but can go deeper on my 9500. Suggestions?  ÂÂ

I just hope the interview is accompanied by a photo shoot. /vanillaforum/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif

Does she focus on any key areas as she sets out to ski a competition round? What were the keys to her becoming so consistent at the 38 and 39.5 passes? What does she do for a break from skiing?

I have been thinking about a good analogy to this and one that comes to mind is this: Imagine back when you were a kid on a swingset. Remember the game of jumping off the seat to see how far you could jump? Well, if you use sitting in the seat like keeping the handle in during your acceleration, I think the same principle is easier to understand, at least for me. If you jump out of the seat (let the handle come out) too early, like at the mid-point of the down swing, you won't get too far, and maybe the seat ends up hitting you in the head. If you release from the seat too late, you go high, but not far. Somewhere at about 3/4 of the way up you jump from the swing and you easily go out to maximum distance. You are using the inertia to your advantage. At each rope length, there is probably some point of maximum distance out, but not too far, as in waiting too long on the seat. The ability to keep the handle in at the second wake depends on a lot of things. Technique, strength to weight ratio, etc. Even the west coasters still have a lot of pressure on the line at this point (watch their spray) force = spray. If they were simply gliding through the water, they wouldn't be throwing much water up. The shorter the rope, the greater the leverage for the boat (simply a sharper angle from the top of the pylon to the skier in a flat out acceleration postion, so that is what dials the needle up on effort. Clear as mud?

I have been playing around on a 69" Senate C and found the Goode "standard" shaped fin more to my liking than the stock Radar fin. You need to file the back top edge of the fin so it can be moved back properly in the fin box though. Thinking of trying my 105 in it, but will have to modify the fin to get it back in the fin box far enough, not sure I want to risk messing it up. I have found deeper and longer is better with this ski. It might be due to the wider tail, but I am around 2.540 and 6.930 jaws. Running 11 degrees on my wing. 245 lbs running 32 off without any problems at 34 mph. Working on 35 off, but usually too tired when I get there! should have ran it the other night but dropped the handle around 4 ball. I think this ski can run 35 off if I can. Just need to ski more than once a week. /vanillaforum/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif ABÂÂÂ

I am not sure if too light is the right terminology, or not enough material. If the ski doesn't break, then light weight is probably ok. I think my old 9100 Goode was really good in rough water, in fact, my buddies use to tease me about skiing poorly in calm water, saying the chop needs to kick up for me. I have not skied as well in chop on the 9500 or 9700. Ski design or light weight? I think the new light weight skis chatter more, no proof of it, just my opinion. I always marvel at how light weight my blank ski is without my Animals on it.

If I owned a bakery and could convince my customer base that a pie with half of the filling is better for you, charge 40% more, and build a cult following, I guess I would be a marketing genius! My problem is I would eat the profits!

Go out to the water ski forum and put a post out there to OB. He runs a ski club down in Atlanta and has a club boat. AB

Well I tried out the F1. I have been dry-docked with a bum ankle, and have missed a lot of really nice weather. Today was just too good to pass on. Wasn't even trying to ski the course, pulled out, cut across the wakes, went into a pre-turn and my ankle reminded me why I haven't skied in 3 weeks. Crawled back in the boat and enjoyed the day driving my ol pal Ted midway through 39 a couple passes. Not sure I will be able to try the F1 until next Spring. :( abÂÂÂÂ

Not me. I jumped off hardshells that were like powershells when they darn near tore my foot off in a bad fall. I might have seen the article you are referring to though. I think they mated the dual loc together first, then installed on the plate, and then left mated, and attached to the ski. I think the inference was that when the dual is mated together, it is not quite in the same postion when applied unmated. Does that sound like what you were looking for? Speaking of ankles, I jammed mine about 3 weeks ago in a skip/hookup slide out and might be left to reading these forums for the rest of the year. Major jam and roll on the "inside" of my back ankle. No binding would have prevented that, IMO. I am about ready to get it xrayed, it just doesn't want to get any better. ABÂÂÂÂ

I ski a traditional gate, but was working with a W3 skier last week on her one-handed gate. Her problem was that at 32 off, she was not getting free of the boat to drop her hips in and get the handle down in a good leverage position. We had her pull a litle harder to get free of the boat a little, and concentrate on getting the handle down, and whammo, deep 32 and finally a full pass. At 28 off, she was strong enough to still get leverage, but the shorter rope starting standing her up, thus late and hot at one ball. It seems to me whether it is one or two hand, you still need to have take care of the handle position, and maintain good leverage.

Oh yeah, I measure DFT the Goode way, is the F1 measured with the rear end of the caliper? I seem to remember someone saying that somewhere. Tips or jaw length meaurement? I have a 8" Mitutoyo. ABÂÂÂÂ

Okay, I have a 68" F1 coming. I have never skied a F1 before, so it sounds like I need to have my Animals back a hole or 2 from stock, and depth should be about 2.510, DFT .780, but not sure I get the length from previous posts. I run 35 @ 55kph on a good day, weigh 240lbs. What #'s should I start out with? Have skied on Goodes since 9100 hit the street. Thanks AB

JD, How has the 9800SL worked out? My ski bud Ted M. has been trying one. Cleaned up his onside but offside is still off a little. He runs a lot of fin though compared to stock and your setup of less length and slightly more depth. AB