Killer

1 hour ago, lpskier said:

If slalom isn’t a spectator sport, explain the crowds at the pro events in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s?

Beer

Paige Rini started on a cut down radar MPD.   Rini has been known to do this, but also has a larger quiver of free skis most of us don't have..

200 for a TRA sounds pretty damn good but it's not the same construction and it's a senate shape.  There's a reason the TRA is $349 MSRP vs $1899 for the vapor pro. 

Also only comes in 63 and 65.  There may be some advantage to a wider tail for kids and "pro" ski construction like a more advanced core and layup, and a smaller ski.

https://youtu.be/1Zh7hm1gkkQ?si=6cYX5m_eonyDbSfw

12 hours ago, owennibley said:

We have a group of 8 people on our club boat. We set up an LLC and have a written agreement with all the formal stuff but we are all considerate and treat each other with respect. 

 

To make it fair we each have an hour meter that keep track of use per owner and then and the end of the year we collect the per hour rate. That hour rate pays for gas, maintenance, storage, etc. It's worked out very well for us so far. 

Wow. Crazy.   Couldn't y'all just keep a notebook in the boat of hours started and ended?   I'm sure there's a level of honesty but if it's a small group like you have, hard to cheat.

14 hours ago, Kelvin said:

I guess I should just quit wasting my time then!

 awesome broadcast dude!  Top notch for sure.   Thank you!

23 hours ago, jercrane said:

Hot take … 

If you can’t afford or are unwilling to hire TWBC you shouldn’t be hosting pro events. 

I thought the webcast was amazing.  Well done Kelvin and all the announcers!

Tony is great but it was awesome having some high end local skiers on the mic. 

5 hours ago, bananaron said:

@Killer For me at my old age and that I open water ski and grew up on outboards I would love to hav one.They have ZERO and I mean ZERO maintenance.My local MC dealer just charged me $1127.56 to winterize change oil filter and install a new impeller on the 08 MC PS 197.That is ridiculous and prices are going up every yr.I have had many DD boats since 1992 however right now would prefer the big outboard on a J-CRAFT.......

Takes me an hour to winterize my nautique.  Couldn't be easier!  My 01 has never even been to a mechanic or dealer and I'm just an insurance salesman lol.

Working on the inboard is so easy.

I have no idea what's involved in maintenance for the big 4s outboards, can't see it being cheaper Frankly but idk.

That said the new J is gorgeous but if I was buying a J 'Craft it would be a refurbished 19' short deck and it would and a 225 Merc 2 stroke on it

18 hours ago, bananaron said:

@Andre The new ones are 21ft now and come with 250HP Yamahas.How would you compare the tracking when you skied one to that of any of the DD boats you skied? The new 21ft ss is suppose to track really well and has no wake........

No comparison to tracking.  Ive spent aot of time in the older 17 and 19 footers.  Good for rec skiing not course skiing. Good for show skiing and footing.  The wake is Bigger on the new 21 but they apparently track better.  I haven't been behind one but know some who have.

The new big 4s motor is mass massive and blocks the rear view.

If you want a go fast boat and a ski boat this is definitely the one.  They're damn gorgeous.  Totally custom but not a replacement for a direct drive.

Long and shallow on my 21 66" but many seem to like short and deep 

29.5 - 29 3/8

2.435.  .750-.765

6.975 - 6.98.  9deg

Just moved to reflex release this season after 15 years on double radar.

I'm using the new radar boot on the radar plate with 840 release.   

In the back I have an HO venom rubber.  Got it dialed in, no prerelease or crashes this year, and skiing great until yesterday morning!

Hit 6ball in a nasty cross wind and did a full ejection otf.  Front radar boot released out of the plate and back foot out of the rubber, no problem.  Swim to get the ski and back on the platform and see my rear foot is definitely got hit on the top:

I'm thinking it was either the release or the front boot that hit the top of my rear foot.

X-ray shows no fractures thankfully! But it's definitely not great..

Anyone have suggestions on how to limit injury from releasing?   The used to sell covers for the release but you don't see them around often and 8 can't find them for sale.

Might have to move back to dbl radar for a bit while the foot heals.

Great show but I need to re listen, there was a lot there and names I didn't pick up on.

Chad got f&-ked, no question.   13 years?  Ridiculous.  Fired, for sure and probably a long time ago, but long term jail seems like a stretch based on the charges, everything else is heresay he said she said from.drug dealers.

Not enough about Waterskiing..

My 2.

The 97-01 ski nautique CB and OB are effectively the same boat, I believe they pushed the helm back just very slightly on the ob.  The previous gen 94-96 hull, they moved the engine back for the ob and it doesn't ski the same at all. 

Any 97+ ski nautique 196 is still a great skiing and driving boat by today's standards.  Not much room up in the ob though!

206 is a rec ski boat and a wake boat in comparison to the 196.

At that depth, individuallly anchored course would be feasible and accurate.

If need be go subs at 3 feet below the surface and remove the buoys

5 hours ago, bananaron said:

@Killer What don't you like about the ski? And what do you like about the vapor.....What yr is the vapor??

Its not that I don't like it, I could get used to it long term.  I skied it a few sets and liked it enough to keep riding it the week before a record tournament.   

The vapor is very fast and builds space before the buoy better than the titanium for me.  Vapor takes less work but also doesn't turn as easily or into as much angle, especially offside. I've been on vapor since 2014, my current ski is a '21 66" so I've been on the style of ski a long time now and tough to change.  

5 hours ago, bananaron said:

I probably would buy the KD had I not purchased the KD platinum just days ago.....

You could always try a comparison between the 2!

I have a 66 Titanium with 6 sets on it.   Like new.  $999 obo.  Really really good ski but I'm back on my trusted vapor

On 7/22/2023 at 11:20 AM, Horton said:

@killer I happen to ask someone who has run into 41 on this ski a lot. they said

6.875

2.465

.775

29 1/8

 

This worked!    Will continue playing with this as the baseline but feel good first set!   

@The_MS like you said holy Offside on this ski, hold on!

3 hours ago, Horton said:

@Killer disregard my previous message. now deleted. 29 1/8 is correct for 66?

3 hours ago, Horton said:

@killer I happen to ask someone who has run into 41 on this ski a lot. they said

6.875

2.465

.775

29 1/8

 

Gracias amigo!

Ya I'm at 29 1/16. Not likely making much difference with the extra 1/16..  not that is notice.  More smear would be good, less tip bite.

I'll try this setup next set!  I was probably dumb to try the long and shallow but that's where I was with my vapor while most seem to like short and deep on it too.  Ive told lots of skiers not to just carryover settings from ski to ski but to try factory first but didn't heed my own advice!

1 hour ago, The_MS said:

I will try .775 range tonite. 
@killer may be able to move the boot on the plate so you can free up some space 

Not on this plate unfortunately. New radar carbon plate for the reflex release.  

I just picked up a 66 titanium.  Very different from the vapor!   1 set on it, going to try @ms your Numbers.   I tried long and shallow which definitely is no Bueno, way too much tip bite.

Can't get bindings further fwd than 29 1/16 witth my radar plate, not sure if that will be an issue...

20 hours ago, Boo said:

Reviving old thread. I dislocated my shoulder slalom skiing on Thursday. First time doing so. Hurt like heck. ER docs put it back in socket and everything is good. It was out about 3 hours. Unfortunately, I cannot see orthopedic doctor until the 25th and I’m supposed to use sling until that time. Looks like I’m missing Regionals and Nationals but want to ski Sr PanAms mid September. Does this seem reasonable?  Also, would like to do gentle arm movements given I will not get PT referral until seeing doctor.  Thoughts on my beginning gentle movements now.  BTW, I’m 74 female and ski all 3 events. Suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks. 

It really depends on what your Ortho says.

Id doubt they would recommend it especially at your age if you want to recover.

You will likely have to deal with frozen shoulder after a few weeks of sling.  I did.   See if you can get into see a doc asap for some recommendations to prevent things like frozen shoulder and what movements you may be able to do before the Ortho appointment and physio starts.

Take it slow and listen to the pros!

anyone using the new Radar Carbon single plate for the reflex release & mounted a microjust on it?

I've been using microjust for years on my aluminum sequence plate and I'm worried about messing up this beautiful carbon plate with my dremel!!!!

https://radarskis.com/products/carbong10-front-plate-w-adaptable-mounting

On 10/6/2020 at 10:03 PM, HMan66 said:

Just installed a Reflex with the 840 release. I'm 225# and the manual calls for a tension of 5. When I did the dry land release test, at 4 it wouldn't release. I kept backing it off 1/4 turn until it would release. It's now between 3 and 4. Does that seem right? I'm currently a 28mph/15 off skier.

@HMan66 I just got on the 840, first time on reflex, but I'm using the new Vapor boot, so the upper cuff is likely softer than the hardshell reflex boots.

I'm around 4 - hard to tell exactly, which is where the chart shows I should be (170lb 34mph).  Had to back it off a bit to get it to release.   only a few sets so far but the binding is solid.

any updates from you on releasing?

On 10/7/2020 at 10:52 AM, Deanoski said:

@HMan66 you need to recheck that does not seam correct im 175 and skied that heel at 5.5 and could dock test it the test should be an abrupt up and forward pull with your foot. not just pull on it with your leg to make it release.

Interesting @Deanoski I can't imagine releasing at 5.5, as I note above it was hard to get out on the dock at 4 - had my friend stand on the back of my ski too.

1 hour ago, UWSkier said:

The bottom edge of the reflex mount is notched for a screw head. Insert the screws into the slots before you tighten down those mounts, then place on the ski and tighten down. 

Awesome!  Thanks.  Okay I swapped out the screws for the little pan head ones and those I can get to move.  

On 4/6/2023 at 9:33 AM, UWSkier said:

already in the front hole on the mount (arrow in this photo).  Going to experiment a bit more this weekend.

How did you get those rear screws to. Bite?  I just mounted mine up and with the release bar mounted in the FWD most holes I can only screw the plate down if it's pushed all the way fwd so the screws don't interfere with the black release bar mounts with the white plastic screws.

My system also came with smaller head Philips screws vs the standard flat head ones youre using 

On 6/13/2023 at 4:22 PM, Deanoski said:

I’m 4 sets in on 67 large HO works 02

2.488 6.840 76.5  9 wing. Fb. 29 9/16

best ski I have been on 

and I have skied them all  D3 ion 2

Ho pro Ho omaga  HO Works 01

Goode xtr cc

2023 radar   plus a few others 

Here my take

easy to ski

rips turns both sides 

great angle and builds into the wake on both side I’m skiing the best I have since I got hurt in 2020

the other skis -32 was a scramble 

this ski wide early -32   With this ski I believe i will start running -35 again on a regular basis 

 

could not be happier

 

 

 

What's your height/weight @deano?   

typically I'd be on a 67, have been riding a 66 vapor for a few years but I'm ~170lbs.  HO chart says 66, 67 for those over 180.

@Jody_Seal will that work with the 97-01 SN?