Would be interested to see how much difference you feel between them running something like 22 off vs 35. I know you start shorter than that, but wondering how much difference you'd notice with more rope in play if you rode them back to back. I think the rope stretch becomes more therapeutic as you get inside 35-38, but can be almost a detriment at longer lengths, especially for bigger skiers. For me, starting at 22 off and weighing 250 lbs, the Optimized ropes feel like bungee cords, but the guys running into 39 love them.