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The truth shall set us free.

@MillerTime38‌ I would say all we need to change is our culture of scoring. Look at my earlier post in the thread. Our sport is amazing and I am proud to have spent most of my life involved in it. I just think we need to change how we score these events and remove the dishonesty from the way we score. I personally saw a few bad calls the judges made at regionals this year. And 2 of them changed the podium.

@T-fromTO‌ I'm not just accusing Dave I am saying that everyone who complained is responsible.

@MillerTime38‌ that is what I'm talking about here we need to change the entire culture of our sport. We should be calling these on ourselves. This sport is much more like golf than baseball. And we should be more concerned with honesty in scoring.

@David Miller‌ then you should have changed the rules for this special type of event well in advance of the controversy. Or you should have informed the newer members of the club that there was a no rerides under the lights policy. To complain about it for an hour and delay the entire event, and cost our sport spectators, both in person and on the webcast is a prime example of why no one wants to watch our sport any more. The truth is that this entire argument shows why we keep loosing youth skiers at astounding rates. We should be focused on making them have a better time at tournaments rather than fighting over who really deserved second place in the big dawg event.

It's been a while since I was up there and the guy I used to ski with now lives in Orlando. Try checking footlooses link

If you can find a single example of when you would feel its dishonest behavior then you must say that it is always dishonest. I understand that we all want to feel like it's not our job to police ourselves, but the truth is 95% of the time you know if you made it on a close call. I had one yesterday where I shaved the gates a little too close. It happens sometimes. Just like in golf even the best golfers shank a drive. The only way to fix our sport is to focus on cleaning up the things that make it hard to follow from an outsiders perspective and to try and get kids more involved.

My oppinion is that @Horton‌ @MattP‌ and @E_T‌ flew in, dressed up in women's clothes, and using 2 work lights a generator and a strobe light caused Jeff to fall so there would be major controversy. I would also state that without evidence directly contradicting me I will be posting this theory everywhere that I can from now until the end of time. Just like we all know that Kennedy was really killed by a guy from the CIA with a magic bullet shot from the grassy knoll. /scarcasm

@MarcusBrown‌ you are 100% right. About everything. We need to focus on the future of our sport because without the kids we may be the only ones left.

There have been a lot of bad things that have been done in our industry by major players this year and the truth about the absolute breakdown should be told and not swept under the rug like the destruction of a tournament site just because someone didn't like competition. "The truth shall set you free"

When I was 9 or 10 I think I missed my gates at a tournament, but skied the pass. I honestly don't remember if I made them or not because it was really close. I will never forget my dad running up to the starting dock and yelling at them to score me at 0 for the pass and to pull me in. I'm pretty sure the judge was going to let it go, but my dad was insistent. It's one of those things that sticks with you and I remember that was the first time I ever started being concerned about making a gate. To this day I am always aware of watching my gates because of that moment.

I think it's a sad fact that some people in any environment will try and game the system to get an unfair advantage over their competitors.

Dude that is the best ending to the worst story I've ever heard. It's such a shame that a fluke ski failure would cause you to be unable to ski to your normal level of excellence at nationals.

This is why we need to change the governing body.... Any rule needs to run on the jeopardy clock. If you can't solve it in under 2 minutes you've lost the audience.... Btw for those of us in the south there is a pretty good baseball game on basic cable

Don't focus on it or you will eventually turn into a head case like me and dunk every ball.

Every sport includes some drugs in their ban that can be used as masking agents, that can be prescribed for a perfectly normal reason. Are we really going to raise the bar for entry into the competitive end of our sport even higher? The appeal of the big dawgs is that some of them are average guys who have spent a lifetime working towards the same goal. Is an injury or illness that would still allow you to compete with treatment with one of these "masking" agents really going to be a disqualifier? Are we really going to, as a community, make it harder for people to stick around at a higher level competitively later on in their careers?

Unless we have a major shift in our sports popularity Andy will always be the king. Even most of the Wally's know who he is and remember him from the tv days

I do 10 as part of my warm up every day in the gym

Listen to @eleeski‌ he is the king of all that is trick.

I always end up hurt or having to travel to places I can't ski. But I don't really stop in the "winter" so I hope I make up for it

Awesome man. Now go run it at nationals

Yay the panda is back!!

@webbdawg99‌ is almost always right

I need one of those shirts

I drink a lot of coffey so I don't notice much of a difference