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6balls- Yeah, I hear that a lot from people that have skied behind the skier. For an old boat I really like the wake behind it. I have skied behind an 04 malibu and a couple of moombas (all members on my lake boats). I like the wake behind the skier just as much as behind them. I want to hold on to it for nostalgic sakes and want to do like you and have a second newer boat...... one day. PP classic, it has to run a paddle wheel right? I think the PP on the moomba doesn't and is soley rpm and doesnt use GPS or anything else just the tach signal and tries to hold it there. It isn't very effective cause I can horse that boat around so much. I am curious as to how hard ZO would be to use on my lake because we move the course all the time. We have a floating PVC course that is meant more for public lake users but we use it because our lake is an irragation reservoir and the water level is always changing and we end up tugging the course one way or another to keep it tight. I can see me every so often having to recalibrate it.

Thanks Chuck I appreciate the insight. Yeah part of what spurred this is that at the end of this summer I was running 32 off and getting 2 to 3 at 35 off fairly regular and then went and skied with my sister behind a ZO boat and had to go all the way back to 22 off and took several runs before scrapping out a 28 off. I figured all my times by hand were way slow. The lake I ski on is huge compared to most tournament lakes. The lake I ski on is almost a mile long and half a mile wide so a long setup is always easy to get. That was also part of what I was wondering cause I had heard a lot of people complain about it "overshooting" the speed with a short setup. The only PP I have ever driven was on an 05 Moomba Outback it is the recreation system and not even the 3 event one. It sets up well because of our long setup. I know from experience that this system is no where near accurate enough to compare to ZO. I am hoping that stargazer would be closer. Chuck, do you ski tournaments and if so do you notice a huge difference between SG and ZO? Do your scores change much between the two types of speed controls?

Jim - did you install SG yourself or have it installed? I don't think I will have a problem doing it myself because my degree is well basically auto mechanics. I don't see where it would be that difficult to do. Thanks for the feedbak its good to know that it gives consistent pulls with a not so experienced driver. I will definitely be using some of them. Last summer I actually ripped one of them all the way out of the boat gates, so not worrying about speed should help them out.

Yeah we have a course. It is a private 10 member lake. Only about half of the members actually ski the course and most of us aren't any good at it. I think two boats out of the ten actually have PP on it and they are very old versions that are the recreational model. My parents bought this boat brand new in 86 and it still looks almost brand new. We have taken very good care of it and done a lot of maintenance. I kinda figure why spend 8 to 10K on a newer boat and still have SG when I can spend $1,400 on it and put it on the boat I already have. I am debating on whether or not to just wait and save a couple of years and get a ZO boat. Most of the members who ski are only there on weekends. After I graduate college I plan on moving close enought o the lake to ski everyday which means I will be bringing friends who have only a year or two of skiing experience under there belts to pull me at 28 off. Thats another big reason I am looking at this option.

Kfennell- yup HO 410 - I ski in Fort Collins Colorado. There are clubs close by but I have been skiing on one particular lake all my life and won't leave it until they kick me off. My parents have been on it since before I was born. I am one of those people that skiing is 50% the reason I do it, the rest is the friends I have on the lake. eyepeeler - I have an 86 American Skier that I put a newer 5.7L vortec in so it has about 275hp. I am hoping that it has enough power to work well with SG. I still have a carb and distributor so obviously not a DBW or anything that can go to ZO.

I have been thinking about putting PP SG on my old boat. I have been doing some research on the topic and still have a couple of questions. I read the old post from 2008 when ZO first started coming about and the debate between SG and ZO. I was wondering now that you all have gotten used to ZO does anybody still practice behind a SG boat and ski tournaments? If so how much difference do you notice? Did you change settings on your SG to give you an almost like ZO feel? I basically have three reasons for doing this. 1. I would like to maybe someday get back into skiing tournaments and I can tell you that practicing behind a hand driven boat and then going to ZO will not work for me. 2. I will not have an experienced driver on most of my ski days and want to eliminate one more variable for a new driver. 3. I was looking at SG instead of PP classic, I read that some people feel it can give a more ZO like feel but I do not want to punch a hole in the bottom of my boat for a paddle wheel. I know the most common sense thing to do is just go buy a ZO boat but I will be fresh out of college and won't be able to afford a 25K boat (at best) but I can do the $1,400 kit for SG. Thanks for the feedback. I am mostly just wanting to be skiing instead of stuck inside right now and thinking of stuff to do to make me a better skier.

So I am Travis Torley skifreaks brother. Like her I started skiing when I was less then two years old. Started tournament skiing in B1 and did pretty well. I quit skiing tournaments when we moved to Kansas. My personal best is 4 @ 35off. Last couple of years I have been a little lazy on progressing my skiing but now that I am moving back closer to my lake I will get more ski time and hope to get back into tournaments. I take personal offense to the lack of coaching from skifreak. She just doesn't listen.

I was wondering if there was anywhere to learn how to re-rope handles yourself? any youtube type videos or maybe just step by step instructions?