Thanks MCskiFreak I did not know there was an owners forum. I will have to check it out. I don't know I skied a set behind a SN200 the other day with a 6.0L and the guy said when ZO hit it was taking it over 5,000 to hold me at 36 boat still ran 16.12. I can't say I have ever been accused of being light on the line. My boat is full throttle to give me a solid time. I am thinking that with it still creeping forward when in nuetral there is something wrong in the transmission. From the suggestions above I think this winter I will look for an identical tranny then buy a new prop. Oh I forgot I also ski in Colorado at about 5,000 feet. That doesnt help either.