@6balls....I can certainly agree that the benefits of pushing massive weight are minimal...in most aspects of life really. Far more applicable are body weight exercises and strength to weight ratio performance, but I think we had a whole thread on this recently. Personally I've always focused mostly on form, high reps, and heart rate when lifting. With reference to Wish's question, I was just explaining that I do feel it is essential to work out muscle groups that we generally don't think of as being skiing related. Seems like we agree that just like marathon runners throw up weights or cross train once in a while, the aspiring slalom skiier might benefit from a comprehensive workout. This does not necessarily even need to include weights, as you point out. Pull ups, sit-ups, push ups, and running can be enough for most.