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One last question if you'll let me but you a little more (thanks again by the way for all your help already. 95 RLX and 95 SNOB are your two options for skiing the course tomorrow...which one do you take? This probably won't happen, because if she concedes on step-over, I'll probably just be patient and wait for a 97+. Nevertheless, there is a 94 SNOB for sale locally, so I have to ask as he may reduce his price enough for this to become a relevant question. There is also a 96 RLX available locally, so if I lack patience, this may matter. Thanks tons again guys.

Thanks for the input 6balls, I'm going to quiz you a bit more because you're speaking to the exact comparisons that are racing through my mind every minute. If I can't get my wife to compromise on walk-thru, and she continues on insisting on being able to walk thru, then it sounds pretty simple that the echelon is better than the 92-95 PS205. However, lets talk SNOB vs. RLX, just in case I really can get her to compromise. I think the SNOB especially would help me get her to compromise because the passengers up front don't have to face forward like they do in the RLX. The response was introduced in 95 with the SV23 hull. Later it went to the SV23 diamond hull. That apparently was an improvement, but most people think it's not one that I'll really notice. Right? The SNOB was introduced in 91? Later, in 97 was the Total surface control hull on the SNOB. Some people act like a 91-96 SNOB is vastly inferior to the 97-02 SNOB because the later one has TSC. What do you say? Is it a big enough difference to spend some money on? Or is the 91-96 SNOB just a teeny step down?

Ha ha!! This is funny. We're both running our posts and looking for almost the same thing. My wife actually might be willing to budge on the walk-thru vs. step-over thing. The clear consensus seems to be that a post 1997 SNOB is great, but have you heard anything good or bad about the 91-97 SNOB? There is a 94 for sale down here in Utah, but I'm just not familiar with the wake to know where it lies in relation to the response/echelon lx and the 205. We also have a couple of centurions for sale down here in Utah, but I can't find any info anywhere on how good those slalom wakes are.

Thanks again everybody for your input. I actually have a bunch of open bow centurions for sale in my area right now. Finding any marketing material or anything for these Centurions seems next to impossible, so I'll hope somebody here knows something. My understanding is that the build quality would not generally be as high, that's why I see the prices lower, and that's fine, but of course, back to my biggest concern is the slalom performance. What models do I want to look for for best slalom performance? When did they quit building with wood? When did they go to EFI? Any info is helpful as I have now searched the information superhighway forever on these things and I'm still coming up short. Here are a few samples of the ones for sale. If none of these are at least as good as a pre 96 205 then I'll just stay patient and wait for the right 205 or echelon lx. http://www.sunsetmotorsid.com/newandusedcars.aspx http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=21513146&cat=147&lpid=0&search=centurion http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=21626320&cat=147&lpid=0&search=centurion

Thanks everybody for the input. That's good to know that the 92-95 ps205 is better than 96+ because my buddy has a 96 PS205 and after riding his 84 S&S that he used to have, that 205 is kind of disappointing for slalom. His does have a flexi-hull as well. We've gotten that window to fall through and be jammed the wrong way before :( Plenty of comments against the slalom wake of a TS190, but no comments good or bad on the sunsetter. I'll take that to mean that none of you have even bothered trying behind a sunsetter so I probably shouldn't either. It sounds like it's either the echelon lx or a 92-95 PS205. I think I would probably prefer the LX, but I think the 205 will be much easier to find for sale as there seems to be a lot more of them. thanks again everybody.

Hi Everybody, New to the forum here. Here is my situation. I just want an old 80's ski boat, but the wife insists on a walk-thru open bow. The oldest options seem to be Tristar 190, Prostar 205, Sunsetter, and Echelon LX. My first thought is that the Echelon LX would have the best slalom wakes. What do you think? Why was the echelon only built for 4 years?