bbrannan127 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 This weekend I'll be down at the lake through memorial day, skiing 3-5 sets a day, and I thought it would be a good time to finally fine-tune my fin settings a little. Trouble is, I have never touched them before. Ever. I recently purchased a micrometer and wing angle-adjustment templates, but I don't have a clue where to start. I'm on a 2011 Strada 66, skiing into 28/32 off @ 36 mph. Is there a set of numbers I could start from? Are the factory settings good enough? Actually, they might not be factory as I bought the ski slightly used. Like I said, no idea what I'm doing here. Also, my Dad is on a 67 or 67.5 Monza (don't know which) from 2007/2008 and he's looking for some numbers, too. He skis into 32 @ 34 mph. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Who knows, maybe I shouldn't mess with it at all, I just thought it would be a good opportunity. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deke Posted September 2, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hopefully you have calipers and not a micrometer. Here's the Radar info: http://radarskis.com/_media/tags//finchart_1-10-11_K8WTC52.pdf Here's how: http://www.d3skis.com/Articles.asp?ID=142 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted September 2, 2011 Gold Member Share Posted September 2, 2011 Personally, I wouldn't deviate from factory settings unless I had a specific problem in mind. And then I'd search the web and BOS for advice on fin adjustments specific to that problem. I spent a while playing with a variety of options on my Goode 9900sl, and after a series of experiments I slowly made my way all the to exactly factory, where the ski feels brilliant! Of course, there's no guarantee that any ski (even straight from the factory) is actually at the factory settings. So measuring is good. In any case, measure anything you try, and document why you were trying it and what it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller davemac Posted September 2, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 2, 2011 another good how-to article (from Chris Rossi) found here.... http://slalomguru.com/articles.php?article=fin As Than mentioned, measure and document all measurements before you touch anything. And as most will advise you...if to make changes, do one thing at a time in small increments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AggieSkier Posted September 2, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 2, 2011 Your dad's Monza will really be a much better ski if he puts a Schnitz Slot Fin on it. Search this site for Schnitz Monza. BTW: If you ski 3-5 sets a day this weekend through Memorial Day -- you will get some awful blisters :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrannan Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 yeah ben, its labor day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted September 3, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 3, 2011 My current Strada recommended settings are: 63.5 28" 2.475 6.880 0.740 7 65 28 3/8" 2.500 6.845 0.745 9 66 28 7/8" 2.505 6.843 0.755 9 67 29 3/8" 2.505 6.843 0.765 9 68 29 7/8" 2.505 6.843 0.775 8 69.5 30 7/8" 2.500 6.843 0.795 8 To measure boot placement with Radar boots, place the butt of the measuring tape against the lower stitch line below the heel and measure to tail of the ski. For the 66, I place the Strada Boots in the middle holes. For other company's boots, take away 1/8" from the boot recommendation above and measure from furthest back part of the boot. For colder water - move fin forward 0.005-0.010", shallow fin 0.003-0.010", and lengthen fin 0.005-0.010". If you need more change than this, try moving boots forward and resetting to the above settings and fine tune from there. For extremely warm water, try the opposite of above in the same increments and a 1/8" boot move back if more fin change is necessary. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller davemac Posted September 3, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 3, 2011 Thank, Chris. Is there any recommended deviation from these boot settings for RTP users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simojo Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Do these settings apply for the older version Stradas as well or just the 2012? I just picked up a used Strada this week and matched my PB the first set off the dock! I also want to thank Chris for his input on BOS and putting up with all of our questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrannan127 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Alright, all my measurements were within .004 of Chris's. Is this close enough? Considering my ability level, in what increments should I adjust? .005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrannan127 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Oh, and yes I do have a caliper and not a micrometer and it is labor day, not memorial day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deke Posted September 6, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2011 Chris Rossi, now I'm completely confused! Your article in The Waterskier, "Cold Water Recommendations," suggested the exact opposite changes for cold water as those posted above for the Strada. Now what?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted September 6, 2011 Baller_ Share Posted September 6, 2011 The settings that Chris posted are perfect and I am in 73f water right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrannan127 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Well something was right about them, my fin was nearly perfect but I did adjust the wing from 8 to 9, the next morning I skied 28 for the first time ever... Then I skied it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 bbrannan127, going to do the same to my wing this weekend. What change did it cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrannan127 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 I didn't really notice it when I first went out, but after a while I realized I was getting less slack. It slows the ski down going into the turn more, so you don't go flying in as much and that leads to less slack, huge for me @ 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 awesome, what you running your binders at? I have been running my front binder, 1 forward of stock. and back binder at neutral but have been struggling @ 35 with slack. Have been using Rossi's fin settings but with a 7 degree wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrannan127 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 I would def try the wing @ 8. Rossi suggests 9 for all ski lengths (except 63 and 69). As for the bindings, it depends on what brand they are. Mine are Radar bindings (Vector + RTP) and I run them in middle holes (as Rossi suggests), something like 28 and 3/4". If you have Radars it is measured to the stitching line at the bottom of the boot. Not sure about other brands, but I know the method of measurement is slightly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted September 7, 2011 Baller_ Share Posted September 7, 2011 @Jaredh20, Are you on a 66? You will get slack by not getting a good turn out of previous ball and over pulling to the next ball. If your Strada is not coming under you or turning hard, move the fin forward. .756 on the 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 on the 65", just finished watching some video from the weekend and i can see that on 32, i'm pulling to long, and when i dont pull for to long i keep the line tight and turn the offside much better(still wheeling most times). On 35 its always slack on 1, i'm LFF. Rarely manage more then 2 bouys. Would you suggest i adjust the fin or just focus on technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted September 7, 2011 Baller_ Share Posted September 7, 2011 If you dont see issues showing up at 28/32 then its probably not ski set up. If you have slack at 1 ball, you are pulling to long to the ball and letting the handle out too quick. Start your pull in towards that gate earlier and go slower towards the ball. Get off the pull and on your edge change sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted September 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 10, 2011 MS, if you are liking the onside on your 67 would you mind sharing the number for your rear boot placement? Did you ever try 29 3\8? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted September 11, 2011 Baller_ Share Posted September 11, 2011 KTM, I use a wiley rear and I am 17 5/8 from the tail to inside ring of the horseshoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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