Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted August 14, 2012 Gold Member Share Posted August 14, 2012 I finally received my US Gear rope with the "locking" loops. I really like this design and hope the rope will serve me well. (I haven't measured it yet.) I have a few minor suggestions for US Gear: 1) Offer more options for sections. I need a rope that starts at red (for guests and my kids), and I'd sorta like to have -41 available just as a practice drill. Since the price differs quite a bit by section count, I'd like to be able to choose exactly the ones I need. I certainly don't need a long-line section, so that's 15 feet of rope that it's silly for me to pay for. And at the other end the options jump from -39 to -43, and with a pretty significant price increase, so I decided to end at -39: the last line I'll be skiing "for real." So I got 0 to 39 -- which is not what I really want at either end. It would be far preferable to simply specify exactly the range of sections that I want -- in my case -15 to -41. 2) Do not label the sections -- or at least offer the option to not have the rubber loop labels. I try not to be very image-conscious, but to me those things absolutely scream amateur. Any remotely serious slalom skier knows what all the lengths are by their color. And they add some weight, too, although probably that's close to negligible. I assume I can just cut them off (someone please shout if I'm wrong!), but presumably I had to pay extra for the effort and materials involved in putting those hideous things on there. 3) Look for other ways to reduce the price, too. $100 for a rope (not including a handle, obviously) seems a bit absurd. I shelled it out b/c I wanted to try the locking loops, but I may not be willing to pay that for my next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted August 16, 2012 Author Gold Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 Fwiw, this rope is also, as they say in South Boston, Wicked Shaht. Specifically, after a set on it to stretch it out, it's about 8" short of actual at -35 and about 7" short of actual at -38. This isn't a huge deal, as there seems to be enough rope that I can adjust it. But that's pretty darn far off. It actually gets even further off on the longer lines, so my best guess is they anticipated it stretching out a lot more than it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller footloose42 Posted August 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2012 My thoughts: 2) I cut the yellow rubber warning label off my handle and it hasn't caused problems (shh, don't tell anyone!) I can't imagine why cutting the length labels off would make a difference. 3) Of course it's overpriced. That length of rope costs pennies to manufacture. It's expensive because it's "new technology." No one else has it, so they have no reason to drop the price. Rest assured, I agree. I wish they would lower the price too, but I guess it's the nature of the beast :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted August 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2012 Short rope... I guess that will make it a great practice-only rope. Then, you will end up PB-ing at tournaments due to the extra .5 foot at the competitions. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted August 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hmmm, I'll measure mine tonight. In use for about 2 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted August 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2012 Measuring mine this weekend for sure now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted August 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm guessing the high price is due to volume and the fact that each rope is hand made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixball Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Just picked up one last week 22-41 off nothing near $100.00 I think $69.00. I have not checked the length yet but I know it stretched big time first few runs. I don't feel it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted August 16, 2012 Author Gold Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 @sixball You talking about a US Gear rope or another brand? What do you mean by "picked up one last week"? Mine took about 4 weeks to ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted August 16, 2012 Author Gold Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 And that reminds me of a big positive -- this rope didn't feel spongy at all after just one pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted August 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2012 @than, a half foot?? That IS a big deal for a guy looking to bust through 38 like you are currently. Geez..what if you run 38 and take a crack at 39???? You will want that extra rope. I don't need longline thru 28 off for my slalom rope, but I find uses for the loops I remove...like the anchor line for my swim raft etc. With that I get my moneys worth. Doing custom stuff for every order would cost money. If it didn't I would specify 28 to 39...may cost more to satisfy all our preferences than to mass produce full lines and give 'em to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixball Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Silver spray keeps them many lengths in the pro shop. Nice rope! I did not feel any stretch after my first run but the first pass did feel as you said spongy. I also had a new handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted August 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2012 I ordered a couple of the "knotless" Masterline ropes for some folks. Pretty clever design. If anyone would like to try one, I have two left over. I'll give you the "BOS" price! jdarwin (at) lakesatcottonwood dot com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted August 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2012 My US Gear Knotless rope is within an inch at all lengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted August 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2012 Mine was only off a few CM at each length. A very good rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted August 30, 2012 Author Gold Member Share Posted August 30, 2012 Glad to hear many/most are the right length. It took quite a while to get mine, so I wonder if they got far enough behind that they started hurrying a little bit. That usually leads to mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mr_pretzel Posted September 3, 2012 Baller Share Posted September 3, 2012 A question, how do you guys measure your ropes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 3, 2012 Administrators Share Posted September 3, 2012 @mr_pretzel Hook at one end to attach - tape measure - 44 pounds an a fish scale - usaws rulebook Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted September 3, 2012 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 3, 2012 @mr_pretzel At the risk of sounding arrogant, I would recommend you don't worry much about rope measuring just yet. The difference between 60 feet and 55 or 65 feet isn't much. But once the colors turn to blue and purple and beyond, even a few inches is a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mr_pretzel Posted September 3, 2012 Baller Share Posted September 3, 2012 @Than_Bogan I just want to know how, i have nobody to teach me. So i ask here. I know that i wont be measuring ropes for at least 5+ years but knowing how is just cool. Thats why i'm asking all these questions, i just want to know stuff. I love skiing in general and just got on the water this year, but have had 6 snow season in a row with 100+ days. Now i finally found something to do during the summer. Waterskiing is a amazing thing, that i know with time i can get "good" at. There is just about having skis on your feet that just feels right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted September 3, 2012 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 3, 2012 Awesome!! GOOD LUCK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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