Baller webbdawg99 Posted April 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 4, 2013 Anyone seen this yet or know anything about it? The website is pretty bare right now but it looks pretty interesting.... www.axiomtool.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 4, 2013 $499? No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2odawg79 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Very Cool! But, With a little xtra time, a notebook and a pen, one can do an awful lot of tuning for $499... But, the idea is awesome! I'm sure in time a much more affordable one will surface.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted April 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 4, 2013 Pretty cool tool. I am not sure I would buy one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted April 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 4, 2013 I've played with a recent prototype. It won't return the exact same numbers as a caliper, but in skilled hands, it's close and quite consistent. It's also a work of art and it's easy to see why it's so expensive. Its coolest feature is that it displays changes to all three fin measurements while any single change is being made. You just have to make adjustments until the three measurements match the numbers you want, there’s no measuring necessary. This will speed up the process a bit (or lots for some). It's well suited to someone who makes a lot of fin changes but calipers will still be needed for sharing numbers. http://www.axiomtool.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted July 28, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted July 28, 2013 If you haven't seen one, here's what it looks like. It takes all 3 measurements at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted July 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2013 This is pretty cool, but I have way more variability in my skiing to sweat a thousandth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted July 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2013 For $500, I'll measure your fin to within 0.0005" every time I see you =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted July 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2013 If it could record my conversation at the end of the lake, or , better yet. , video my run and make the necessary adjustments automatically ... May be worth half the price of a ski. Seriously looks awesome, but a solution without a problem(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2013 That looks really cool but I can't justify 500 for it. At 200 I might think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted July 29, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted July 29, 2013 Is $500 expensive? Sure. But so is $2000 for a blank ski, $500 for a front boot alone, and a $160 for one round at Nationals (not including airfare, hotel, and rental car). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 29, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted July 29, 2013 At 500, not enough people will buy to make it worth the fin # exchanges. It will be like telling me my DFT needs to be at .705 with the slot caliper and I dont have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 29, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 29, 2013 I will unbox one this week. It it is pretty darn cool. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I have not used my slot calipers since getting my Axiom. Why would I waist my time chasing my tail from length to depth to DFT. My time is more valuable and would rather spend it skiing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted July 29, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 29, 2013 How long does it take to set up the tool on the ski? Also, I would be interested to see if you take the tool off the ski and reinstall it; if the numbers come up "exactly" the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 29, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted July 29, 2013 Maybe makes sense for a "club" to get one? Split 5+ ways, that starts getting reasonable. And how often do you really need to use it? But I'd like to be pretty darn confident that it had awesome repeatability before slapping down any cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilinjim Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 This link should show how to check you fin and how repeatable it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojzRj7yfvo This one shows how to dial into an old setting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyFZLc2wPiY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 @skibug I've never timed installing it but I would say I can easily install it and read all 3 numbers in under 30 seconds. Another time saver is to try and change length. With Axiom, I can see that this also changed my depth and my DFT. I can then set them back quickly. Also, if I give you my Axiom numbers you could simply set your Axiom to those numbers then pull your fin into position and DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted July 29, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 29, 2013 Ok, questions answered. Pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 29, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted July 29, 2013 If all the BOS members had one it would be great. It would be a great way to share fin numbers for all the skis and put an end to all the different calipers. @Horton should make it mandatory for all members to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted July 29, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted July 29, 2013 @MS I'm sure Axiom is on board with that plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted July 29, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 29, 2013 Is there a volume discount... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller colo_skier Posted July 29, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 29, 2013 Why should larger skiers get a discount? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted July 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2013 we need more help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted July 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2013 I saw one in person at cedar ridge in june. It is truly a work of art, I understand the $500 price point, but not worth it IMO. Maybe at 200-250 range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted July 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is the reason I can't be a sales guy. There is so much stuff in the world that is not needed. Not saying it's not cool, but really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted August 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 If there is a volume discount, I should get one free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 This thing is AWESOME! Its so easy to get repeatable, quick, accurate numbers over and over! Later, I'll post up some "crossover" numbers comparing my slot caliper with the Axiom. A HUGE thanks to Jim over at Axiom. If you haven't checked this thing out yet....you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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