Baller skibug Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 There may be a lot of drivers out there that are capable; but, have just not had the chance to pull anyone deep short line 38, 39, 41; because there just aren't that many skiers that get into those lengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 2@41 off 34mph and 1 1/2 @ 41 off at 36mph in a tournament. 4@41 off at 36mph in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tsixam Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 6.0@41 and 4@41 in competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popof Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I unfortunately don't do a lot of driving as I ski in a club which has its own drivers / coaches... Hopefully I'll someday have my own boat and lake and course and friends who ski into 41off so I can come back and answer this poll differently ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted April 24, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted April 24, 2013 1 at 39 off (34 mph). I've only pulled that a couple of times. Most of the time, the max is 38 off and the score is usually 4 buoys there. All driving is practice. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 4@39 (36 MPH). 38 and beyond are a totally different game in the driving seat. As @OB mentioned in another thread about mirror size, you DO NOT LOOK AT THE MIRROR at these lenghts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 @tsixam, what happened in the 43 attempt???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tsixam Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 @ral He decided that he was done, no more juice left for a serious attempt. Tsixam By the way it was at 34. If it had been in a competition he would have given it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 A ski buddy at our lake can get into 38. He usually will make ~2.5 - 4 buoys. As @ral said - NEVER LOOK IN THE MIRROR! Fun to drive for someone of that caliber skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted April 24, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 I would be interested in hearing who looks in the mirror at any line length? I never "look" in the mirror intentionally. I do catch a blip of the skier/mirror in my peripherial vision; but, my eyes are never anywhere but down course. At the 38, 39, 41 the "blip" I speak of is very important as I expect to "feel" the skier and to see that "blip" at a certain point relative to hook up and course postition. This "feel" and "blip" are direct inputs to what I am doing as a driver; but, never do my eyes come off the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tsixam Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 I checked back, only 2/41 in competition. Tsixam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 I look in the mirror EVERY pass....right after the exit gate. Through the course, no radio, no yapping in my ear, just feel the wheel, stay a nanosecond ahead of the skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 4/39 @ 34 is my tournament best for @Mr. Jones - I don't get many opportunities to reach that line length in practice, but I seek out the chances when they present themselves. Most practice is 28 to 35 off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted April 24, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted April 24, 2013 It was another thread on driving shortline that opened my eyes to just how hard it is to drive shortline. After that thread, I noticed how much of a synchronized dance it is between skier and driver. That is a great thread by the way. Worth bumping to be with this thread or putting up the link. I learned a great deal from it as I ski far more then drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Marco Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 Had the pleasure of pulling a pro skier to 2 @ 41 (36 mph) to set our lake practice record. I have to say that it was not the driver, it was most definately the skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted April 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2013 If I had my choice, I'd much rather ski into 43 than drive into 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 1 or 2 at -41 @34 Jeff Milford in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted April 24, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted April 24, 2013 The short-line driving thread I was referring to. Leaned a great deal from it. Worth a read or reread. http://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/6397/boat-driving-skier-speed/p1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 24, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted April 24, 2013 Pulled CP through 41 numerous times in both practice and tournament. Also Andy through 41 at 34 mph. Nate 5 @ 41 for national record a couple years ago. In reality these guy's that can run 41 have less impact on the boat then say a 38/39 off men 3 or 4. I pulled CP and Dr. Morgan over the weekend, Dr. Morgan needs far more steering influence then that of CP yet CP very commonly runs a full pass more then Dr. Morgan. as a skier Getting the cross course work done behind the boat and not off the ball will help a driver keep the boat where it needs to be. load hard off the ball and even the best drivers have difficulty recovering and making the boat stay in the middle or in layman's get's the driver out of step in the dance! If you drive at this level or have aspirations or innate ability to be a good shortline driver please remember that these guy's will get out of step now and then and hit you when and where you least expect it. Dont freak out! feel where you are and do your best to get back in step with out hurting the skier and continue the duet! It happens to everyone that drives shortline from time to time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2oski Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 1@41 34mph in practice. I'm fortunate to have several skiers in our club that get into or thru 39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 25, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted April 25, 2013 we had a clinic with @Mapple back in 2010, I drove for his set at the end of the day, he ran a -39 @ 55k like it was nothing, very cool feeling to pull a skier of that caliber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Scott Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Pulled Cp through 41 several times and Nate Smith. Pulled Mapple through 41@34 mph. I agree with Jody, the skiers like CP are relatively easy to pull because he and Nate are pretty symetrical skiers and don't really load the boat up out of the buoy. However the key to pulling these guys is to stay a little ahead of them in the course and don't get to chasing the skier through the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypresskier Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Pulled Chad Scott through 41 in practice. Having Chad as my ski partner for years really increased my driving skills as well as my skiing scores. Now having Mike Munn for one of my ski partners keeps my skills sharp as Munn is one to "get out of step" every now and then and hit the boat really hard. Having Shane Hill as another ski partner now I keep a close eye on the mirror as you never know when he will have a spectacular YouTube moment that you wouldn't want to miss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted April 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2013 2@41 in an R tournament @ 34 mph. 2 @ 41 36 mph practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted April 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2013 It's been a few years now, but pulled @razorskier1 through back to back 38's followed by a beautiful 39. I put "into 41" above even though he tossed the rope in joy and both of us were so excited that he didn't attempt 41. After it wore off and we were idling to the launch I was like "dude, I can't believe we didn't go for 41!...and he was like "yeah, what were we thinking?" Caught in the moment, I guess. Was a magic day...we both skied like rock stars but he got the best score and a practice PB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GaryWilkinson Posted April 26, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2013 Pulled Pierre Arsenault to 5@-38 in a tournament a long time ago @36 mph on a hand-pass! Waaay before pp or zo. Also Suzi Graham to -38 off, (she scolded me for a crooked entry, this in the days before pre-gates) never had an angled entry since! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 26, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted April 26, 2013 Most of us that drove by hand are all now starting to get up their in age. Funny thing though most of the drivers that are frequently used in the more elite level tournaments are the same drivers that drove by hand back in the not so distant past. This is a bit of a concern as their are not a whole lot of younger drivers coming up to drive these elite skiers. Chad, Eller and now hopefully Scot Ellis are a few of the under 40 ish drivers that are driving well and are heading for driver greatness. Down side is that they are so few and the rest of us are 55 years old Plus! The sport needs to be more active and quit putting up barriers for the younger aspiring drivers. Their are a number of individuals in the sport that drive a lot of elite skiers and are very good at it yet because of how our system works that individual can be a heart surgeon in less time then it takes to be a senior driver. Driver rant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted April 26, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2013 I guess I should work on my driver waiting now so I can be a Sr. By the time I'm 40... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Wo! Forgot the early '80's when I was an Ex-teenager. Used to drive a ski partner up to 35' off. That was back in the days of Foot throttles & Big Speedo's, like about 10" round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted April 27, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2013 I had a ski partner that could get into 38 off back in the late 80s. he could really pull the boat down, really hard to get good times with those boats. Since I've started back skiing has been mostly 15, 22 some 28off. I'd definitely would not feel comfortable pulling someone at 38 or shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted April 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 28, 2013 My best pulls to date: 34 - MM, Harold Hintringer 3 @ 41 34 - OW, Karina Nowlan 1 @ 41 36 - OM, Chris Parish 3.5 @ 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstateskier Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I've pulled two skiers into 39 - don't think I've ever had a guy behind me run it though. Several 38s over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted April 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2013 I've pulled several skiers through -38 and into -39. Have yet to pull someone through -39. All at 34mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted April 30, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted April 30, 2013 @Razor Hows the knee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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