The Vapor by RadaR

[JC McCavit]

@richarddoane - I second @markchilcutt - give us a little something for the imagination while we wait for delivery. Are you running PBs on your Vapor? How does it feel compared to the STRADA?

[RichardDoane]

very similar to the Strada in feel, stable as he!! and easy to stand on, turns in better for the gate was the first thing I noticed, blazes across the course in typical Radar fashion, been playing with fin settings and binding placement thanks to input from Eddie & Rossi, the first pink one I had for about 3 weeks, helped me get out of a 2 @ 38 slump that had taken control of my skiing in July, the new Green one I've been on for 2 weeks now, haven't missed a 35 in tournament rounds so far, and been getting to the 4 ball on purple, my latest practice thing is spin 28's, then spin 32's, and then this week added spin 35's, last night with OF at the wheel I ran a 28 opener, then 5 32's w/o dropping, hoping to get through that nasty purple loop at Sunday's tourney, gotta remember to get up on the boat for a good start, no matter what the line length

[markchilcutt]

Thanks @richarddoane for the input that is an awesome improvement and glad to hear you broke out past 2@38 slump on the Vapor!! Keep up the hard work all that spinning will make you strong like bull!

[RichardDoane]

gotta remember to breathe for sure

[chris_logan]

Does anyone know if there will be a color differentiation between the lithium, graphite, and alloy? I would assume so, but haven't seen anything on this yet...I have a Vapor Graphite on order (since I'm not the prettiest style skier) and am not really sure what it will look like.

[markchilcutt]

green = lithium(strada level) black= carbon (carbon vice level) redish orange= alloy(vice level)

[Chef23]

@swc150 call Performance Ski they had a bunch of them at Nationals.

[woolly110]

graphite is all black. (carbon)

 

[Jibbo]

[tjm]

Anyone riding one of these yet.

[RichardDoane]

looks just like mine !

[rq0013]

I havent received mine yet

[woolly110]

still hoping mine will turn up in New Zealand soon. but still waiting for sun to come out.

 

[Roller]

The ski is Amazing!

[skinonstop]

Got mine on the 16th and cross course speed is quicker than the Strada. Great gate initiation an outbound speed sets you up wide and early!

[skierjp]

I bought the special edition made for Performance Ski and Surf. 1 of only 10 made. It is red metallic. So far better then the green Strada. Rossi set it up.

[Texas6]

@skierjp, pic please? I don't think any of us are privy to the special edition. Sounds cool

[chris_logan]

@Texas6,

[Texas6]

Very cool! Thx for sharing. Please send one ASAP :)

[tjm]

It's too bad that Red isn't the production color, very good looking.

[rq0013]

Any updates on how the vapor is riding? Is it a better ski than the strada?

[Beans]

I've noticed that most of the reviews of the Vapor on here are from shortline skiers, so here's my perspective from being a 30mph-36mph skier. I demoed the ski yesterday and had Brooks Wilson as a coach (which I'm not gonna lie was pretty awesome);

 

First off, you have to dominate the front end of this ski in order for it to work for you, after you do that, this ski rips in every phase of the course. Coming through the wake, this things picks up speed scary quick. Approaching the buoy, I didn't bleed off as much speed as I normally did, but that was okay because once I got to the buoy, I could rip the turn and the ski wouldn't wobble or have a stop-and-start ending once I established the angle like sometimes happens on my ski.

 

This ski was an absolute dream to be on and I'm glad the guys from Radar were cool with letting the college kids give it a whirl while there were people looking to buy the new ProStar on the other lake.

 

(Note: My normal ski is a 66" O'Brien Elite Quattro)

[gregy]

@beans what's your height and weight and ski size you tried.

[Beans]

@gregy I'm 5'9" and 170lbs and I used a 66" behind a 2013 197

[rq0013]

Brooks is awesome, he coaches me alot. @beans what rope lengths do you ski at 36mph?

[utahslalom]

I'm anxious to see the Carbon and Alloy variations of the Vapor. Anyone have photos of them (or any of the other 2014 Radar skis for that matter)?

[Beans]

@rq0013 that was actually the only time in my life so far that I've ran 36mph so -15.

[JC McCavit]

@richarddoane and other Ballers - What fin settings are you using for the Vapor and what is your DFT for your front binding?

[Deanoski]

my friend has a 66 29.50 fb 2505 6830 76 dft -32-25 skier looks real good under him.

[Fatroll]

Any settings for a 68" or should I just extrapolate from Rini's settings?

6 ft 205 pounds

[RichardDoane]

@jc_mccavit - 66" ski, 29 1/8" for front boot, 2.490, 6.860, .760 9 degree wing screws up as per Eddie/Rossi, been 3 weeks now but kinda went backwards last week with an SI flare-up, probably shouldn't have skied tournaments last Thursday and Saturday, took this week off to rest for a RC at Borderline this coming weekend, planning to get-r-done !

 

@fatroll - same fin settings, just a larger # for your boot measurement IMO

[A_B]

@Fatroll, the party line on settings seems to be slightly longer and shallower than the Strada.

So take Strada settings and bump or add .005 to Rini numbers. I haven't seen 68 numbers yet either.

[Fatroll]

The water I typically ski on is "muddy" making you lose outbound speed much faster than at other sites. Plus, accelerating is a little tougher than other sites. When I get my ski (hopefully in the next day or two) I will start with Rini's number but generally a binding adjust is a great help on this water. @AB and @ richarddoane thanks for your input.

[markchilcutt]

Vapor=mind blown lastnight! I skied sets 2&3 lastnight. On my second set just went out and turned the brain off and skied. Can not believe what happened! Im RFF and my 135 has always been tough. I always feel rushed to start my 135 turn as soon as im off the 2nd wake which = loss of angle= poor handle cont= long sweeping bus turn= down course slack rope= late to 2,4 etc etc. -32 has become almost a given for me this season. I have only missed the pass once out of 12 tournament rounds. Anyway and i still cannot figure out how this happened but i found myself wider, earlier, taller, with handle into hip longer going to 135 at -32 than ever before!!! My offside turns lastnight @-32 were like nothing i have felt to date! unreal i am at a loss for words. I will report back soon.

[Deanoski]

Mark what # are you running?

[Texas6]

@markchilcutt; please don't make me buy another ski

[markchilcutt]

29.75 2.480 6.870 .755 9deg on a 67

[JC McCavit]

@markchilcutt - 6.870, is that with tips? Do you use a slot caliper.

[markchilcutt]

99.9 percent that is Tips no slotted.these are Rossis numbers he set up the fin and I don't recall him using slotted. I will get back to you with forsure anwers later today

[markchilcutt]

@JCMcCavit Using tips and no slotted calipers