Administrators Horton Posted July 31, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2013 MasterCraft has been working on a new slalom/3-Event Boat boat for a few years. When I say working on, I do not mean talking about it. I mean year round R&D. I mean guys with engineering degrees sanding on the bottoms of boats. That is not what MasterCraft told me. That is what my network of spies has told me. Semi-officially I have heard that MasterCraft may unveil a new "direct drive boat" in Calgary next week. Direct drive usually means it is not a wakeboard or surf boat. They are not officially saying if it is a new slalom/3-Event Boat. I will be in Calgary for the “MasterCraft Water Ski Shootout” so if they unveil the long awaited ski boat I will get to drive it, ski behind it and inspect it. http://www.mastercraftwaterskishootout.com/ Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 We re missing the almost part... Anyways,Mastercraft did a real good job keeping the secret so far. Not even a picture anywhere to be found! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 31, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted July 31, 2013 @Horton When/if you see it, please get a beam measurement for the Cochituate Contingent (at least 3 regular posters and at least 2 more occasional posters). We'll be curious if this boat can make it through our tiny tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 31, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2013 @Than_Bogan you want that in manometers? microns? kanejaku? AU? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 31, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah nanometers would be good. (I think man-o-meters are used to measure the extent of Anthony Weiner's ... um .. indiscressions.) I had no clue what a kanejaku was. I have awarded one Awesome for an impressive obscure reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 31, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2013 @Than_Bogan I go the extra mile for you Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted July 31, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted July 31, 2013 Actually, shouldn't that measurement be in feet off relative to tunnel width... Looking forward to hearing about a new offering to the ski crowd. Since, supposeldy a smaller boat, weight would be a good one to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 31, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2013 I never said / heard it was smaller. Rumours are all over the place. On that I honestly have no idea. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 actually a manometer is used to measure peizometric head. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ctsmith Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 The boat may resemble me, short and fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 31, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2013 @ctsmith seems unlikely Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 31, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted July 31, 2013 It will most likely be another river barge that has no handling at slow speed in close quarters around docks and such. It will ski great and cost a fortune. The promo guys will surely have to fork out additional $$ to move into them from the 2013s they are selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ctsmith Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 @Horton, okay, I'll agree with you, I'm not short and fat :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 31, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2013 @ms have you liked anything since the Monza? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 I think MS just likes to complain. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'm just hoping the rumor of a 19' three event beast is factual. That would be a radical departure in this era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 I wouldn't count on it being smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 31, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted July 31, 2013 @Horton and @shane. Not true, I like the new IPA from Summit brewing. I also like the US gear handles and I am a TXI fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 31, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2013 @swc5150 I honestly don't know but I doubt it. I assume the perfect wake is the goal and gong smaller would make that harder. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 I agree with you guys, just wishful thinking. The '91-94 hull was small, but had what I think could be the best slalom wake ever (other than some spray issues). Conversely, I'm not sure you can get that 200-like freight train tracking out of something that small and narrow? Either way, I can't wait to see it. I'm sure it'll be really sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 @Horton The mother ship has told me mum is the word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 The other positive out of this is the 2013's will be going cheap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted July 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2013 @OB Trying to imagine how horrible that would look . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 manometer |məˈnämətər| noun an instrument for measuring the pressure acting on a column of fluid, esp. one with a U-shaped tube of liquid in which a difference in the pressures acting in the two arms of the tube causes the liquid to reach different heights in the two arms. manometric |ˌmanəˈmetrik | adjective , manometrically |ˌmanəˈmetrik(ə)lē | adverb , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted August 1, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 1, 2013 @skibug - I doubt anyone purchasing a 2013 for almost $50k will consider that as "cheap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 @richarddoane, my comment is based on pure speculation that the change in hull design for 2014 will make it harder to sell the 2013's; hence the lower price tag to move them. If I were in the market and considering an MC promo; I would probably hold off until the 2014 promos were for sale unless I could get a real deal on a 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lottawatta Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 There is going to be a serious price increase on the 2014's. I doubt anyone will have to firesale their 2013's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 Guys, we spend stupid money on skis. If it skis better than a 200 or txi, does an extra couple of grand over the current 197 really matter? People are still complaining about the price of a 200, yet cc sells every one they can pop out of the molds. I would expect the benchmark price of the new MC to be equal to a like equipped Team 200. How many of us have purchased a new vehicle that cost thousands more than the identical 3-5 year old vehicle we're replacing. I know I have. Every year the cost of materials and labor goes up. Nobody rides the bus for free. If HO still made a Monza it would cost $1400 and not the $900 that it did in 2005 when @MS started his love affair with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 @shaneH - your spot on. History of price points tells you that when you lower a cost on a product, it may increase your sales, but your profit margin is not the same. If it were a mom and pop type shop that might be acceptable - but MC isn't a mom and pop shop. They are in business to make money. In the face of competition they will not undercut CC and Malibu so the price points would be very close to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 Exactly to my point. I would wait and pay a little more for the 2014 versus a 2013. The 2013 MC would have to have a large enough delta for me to even consider it; not to have the latest and greatest hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 I completely agree with Shane; 200TE like pricing. I hope I don't get too many thumbs down for this, but as much as I don't want to spend big money on a new boat, I don't see the pricing as out of line. It's a premium purchase, and you get what you pay for. Our family paid $18k for our '86 MC, at the same time a new 911 was in the mid to upper $20's. From what I've seen, pretty much all premium rides have increased proportionally, be it ski boats or what have you. This should be a great August... the Packers are looking solid in camp, and MC is releasing a new Prostar:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 1, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 1, 2013 If I could get @Eddie Roberts to make me a 2014 Monza, I would plunk down 1400 right now. But plunking down over 50k for a ski boat when there are 196s out there that are better then the new bling would not be a good idea. @shane is right about the prices, people will buy them and they will put a price on them that they know they can get. The market will decide how many they can sell and there are plenty of people out there with deep pockets that will buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 I was just told via my dealer contact that the pricing is staying in line with current 197 price and will be less than 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 Interesting Shane. Perhaps the boat is 19' after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 I would not infer anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopold Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I expect that the new MC will have better fuel consumption than the older boat. A new boat has to be an improvement in every aspect. I’m a CC guy, I’m in my third 196 and I think I’ll be in the market quite soon but I’ll never buy a boat with worst fuel consumption than my actual boat. So 200 is no an option, TXi it’s for sure and let’s see what MC have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 No inference taken, I'm just guessing and wishing:) I'm also guessing no price increase will not help current 197 values. If it lives up to the hype I've created in my head, it could do what the Evo did to the death star hulls in terms of resale - at least what happened in our area. Dang I can't wait to see this boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2013 @leopold fuel consumption is in large part proportional to hull surface wetted area. A 200 is 38% more wetted area than a 196, which is probably pretty close to it's increase in fuel consumption. So the only way for the new boat to have less fuel consumption would be for less wetted surface area, something I would highly doubt. At best, i would expect equal wetted surface area to the current 197. A 196 was already a fairly small hull and had less wetted surface area than a 197, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopold Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Yes ShaneH, you could be right and there is a technical reason for that increase in fuel consumption but the TXi is almost the same length than the 200. Maybe the CC rides deeper with more wetted area or whatever but at the end I think the Malibu is better technology and a more efficient boat. Nowadays I think fuel consumption has to be one of the key points when designing a new hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted August 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2013 A little off subject... I think the value of our 92 PS 190 will continue going up. Better on fuel and better wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brady Posted August 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2013 @ShaneH Are you talking about boats or women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted August 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2013 apparently MC is will be posting some sort of "teaser" today on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2013 Shane only speaks of women and refers to his boats as females to ensure he's always on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcityskier Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 @swc5150, I was told the 94 ps190 hull was what they started benchmarking against, along with all the best (196,200, carbon pro, txi...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 3, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2013 Yup, '91 to '94 hull. '94 sometimes gets singled out, as it was the first year for standard EFI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted August 3, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2013 Nice motor box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 3, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2013 Nah, I think it;s an outboard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 3, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 3, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2013 Please.... please.... please tell me it;s not another one of those crappy Maristars!!! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wayne Posted August 3, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2013 Since we're speculating, what if it was a Prostar 197 "V"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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