Promo

[Andy]

As I contemplate a new ride, I wonder how many of you guys have promo boats.

[RichardDoane]

http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Promo_Boat

[6balls]

on www.ski-it-again.com there is a promo boat section on the tool bar left to select from instead of simply comp boat.

[ForrestGump]

We have a promo 200 and our Pro Star will be here in early December.

[Andy]

I know about the promo section on ski-it-again. I look at it often. How many BOS members have them?

[RichardDoane]

my MC will be available in September 2014, typically about 150 hours, but maybe a little more since we'll have it a little sooner this season

[Onside135]

I've always wondered how many "promo" boats manufacturers put out versus how many brand new boats they sell to off the street customers. Anyone have any idea? I just don't see dealers in my area selling a lot of new 3-event boats except to promo guys...

[RichardDoane]

my dealer has sold all 3 of my promo boats to "average joe" types after we've run them for either a season or in 2012, 2 seasons

[Onside135]

@richarddoane...Okay. But I guess I'm wondering how many "average joes" are buying brand new boats with zero hours on them versus boats that are going through promo guys first. If Correct Craft builds "X" number of SN200s this year, what number is "X", and what percentage of "X" are promo versus off the street sales nationwide.

 

@ShaneH...you seem versed in the promo world...any ideas?

[Ilivetoski]

@Onside135 I can tell you not many. Not many at all. I was thinking about this earlier today and a very important part of someone buying a new boat (or promo boat) is that it is viewed as important to help your local promo dealer, thus more people buy promos. I know the local MC dealership that I do some work with (they are all wakeboarders so I go to the boat show's with them to explain skis, ski design, etc.) and they "sold" 1 MC last year. That was the promo dealers boat.

[ForrestGump]

MC makes 125 Tournament Teams a year and sells at least that many 197s over and above. The number of promo 200s is about 70 and CC sells about 250 200s a year. How many ski boats get sold depends on the area. In our area, there are 3 promo 200s and my best friends dealership sells 3-5 200s additional to retail customers. Same with the Mastercrafts.

 

For '14, you'll be standing in line if you want a MC. They sent an email to dealers saying that if they didn't already had a production slot reserved, they won't get a ProStar. They have already ordered an additional tooling set, but at this point there will only be 125-130 '14 ProStars.

[RichardDoane]

@onside135, not sure about CC's or MC's production #'s, we'd need someone with factory knowledge

[Razorskier1]

@Andy -- I think buying a one year old promo is an excellent way to get a great boat at a reduced price. When I bought my 197TT in 2005 I told myself that was the only way I'd ever buy a boat again. I am breaking the rule and buying a 2014 ProStar direct from my local dealer, who I know quite well. If it weren't for that relationship, I'd be waiting for a TT at the end of 2014.

[countymountie]

I bought a 200 promo from a dealer with a whopping 60 hours. IMHO, if you are looking at getting a new boat, buying a promo will get you into a boat that has been dialed in and save some serious cash.

[Wolfeie]

I bought a 2011 200 promo in 2012 with 112 hours. Saved lots of cash and could not be happier

with boat. Looked brand new, was serviced, transferable warranty....no down side. Boat now

has 262 hours without any problems.

[Jdubs]

I got a promo 2013 SN 200 open bow for sale in the Dallas TX area. Hit me up if you want a peek.

[Horton]

@ShaneH I love you man but I do not think your numbers are correct

[ForrestGump]

They were basically correct at one time. And I've got the nautique promo roster spreadsheet, so I know exactly how many of them there are. Now, one distinction I need to make is that 197 Tournament Teams do not all go to promo members. There are not 125 MC promo owners. Dealers could order a tournament team boat if they wanted, as long as there is a 197 production slot available.

[Horton]

@ShaneH Lets just say that I do not think you have access to the whole picture with all brands discussed. What you describe may be part of the picture. My sources are confidential so I am not saying where I think you may be off.

 

Just don't want the readers taking your #s to the bank in case they are off

[6balls]

In the economic downturn not all promo's were spoken for and a regular dude could buy a promo at promo price w/out the promo agreement to take to events. Had I been in a better $ position in '09 would have done so.

[Andy]

I priced out a fairly plain jane 200 OB w a 409. If I could buy a similar boat promo with low hours it is obviously a better deal. Is there a typical savings or does each seller have a target price based on the years in the program?

[ForrestGump]

@Andy The answer is, it depends. Some promo owners try to get out of the boat just what they have in it, some get extra incentives, some try and make money, some get sold back to the dealerships who then sell them. There is no rhyme, rule, or reason to promo pricing around the country. At this time.

[Fine409]

@Razorskier1 what color scheme are you going with?

[Razorskier1]

@dtm8119 -- toying with combo of Protour Red, Slate Gray and astro topaz. The ProTour Red is very similar to the color of my first boat, a 1988 Ski Centurian Barefoot Warrior Comp. Sentimental value. Looks really sharp.

[skibug]

Promo is the only way to go as far as I am concerned. My last three boats have been.

[Not_The_Pug]

Getting ready to order my 2014 200 promo, if anyone on the west coast is looking for a 200 get in touch with me. Order your colors and options.

[Waternut]

Wish I could afford a promo boat....

[oldjeep]

Supposedly my FIL's ski buddy is ordering a 2014 to replace his 2012. Last year was the first year in 20? years that he didn't have a brand new Mastercraft.

[lhoover]

Horton, what is so cottonpickin' confidential about boat sales numbers? Why do auto manufacturers talk their number of sales and boats hide them? Shane, if Houston is buying 5 200s, who in the world is buying the other 245?

[skidawg]

Boat sale numbers are confidential because @horton wants to think he has the inside track on something!!!! Ha

[LeonL]

It seems that boat mfgs have always been secretive about production numbers. Why??? I don't know.

[swc5150]

A friend of mine owns a CC dealership, and @shaneh 's numbers pretty match what my buddy says as well...just the CC sales of course.

[Horton]

@lhoover meh. Just because I have info does not always mean I should print it. Maybe “confidential" was the too strong of a word.

 

@ShaneH thinks his numbers are right. I have heard otherwise. His sources are good and so are mine. Whatever.

[Horton]

@LeonL Maybe the same reason you might feel funny telling everyone what you made last year.

[LeonL]

As someone stated above, auto mfgs don't seem to hide production numbers. I guess due to the smaller industry as a whole, some secrets are necessary.

[Chad_Scott]

Andy. I have a 2013 Malibu TXI 30 th anniversary available. It is a great boat and has pulled numerous records. 4 this past weekend in SRB. Great skiing and driving boat.

[jaredH20]

if any one has a second hand 200 that they wish to sell, message me