kfennell Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 If you had a mount that always kept the skiier perfectly centered, and reduced vibrations by ~90% and most importantly didn't transmit any rope shock to the camera, how much would you pay? Films in 1080p and has adjustable zoom. Just wondering if there is any interest before I work on a proof of concept? Bear in mind that existing high end mounts cost close to $300 without a camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Ah, damnit i left it public. @Horton can you switch it to private? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 Still only 3-400. My experience with the Trakker P3 mounts and a nothing special cheap video camera with image stabilization has been good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 Kinda depends on size and since it sounds like you're trying to include the camera as well, what features the camera has as well. I've dreamed up lots of options to do what you're talking about and came up with ideas everywhere from super ghetto to extremely elaborate to high tech. Everything I thought of couldn't be mounted to the pylon since it moves pretty violently at times which ultimately makes the system depend on the camera's ability to filter vibration instead of mechanics. Most of my elaborate ideas would be in the way for anything but a specific photo shoot. Ultimately, I settled on the Trakker P3 and a JVC HM65BU. This was using about 5-6 different cameras and flip flopping between the original Trakker mount as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Be great if I could trade in all the other crappy stuff I've tried over the years? Sure it would total a lot more than $600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 I use wakeye plus panasonic hxwa30. Expensive. Yes but it is on my coaching budget so it is wort it. Will pay more with camera. My requirment spec fo an ultimate camera solurion would be -Mounted out of the way. For example close to mirror -Automatically start/stop filming at 75m bois -Store metadata such as coordinates from google maps Weather conditions Boat speed, zo settings Line lenght (film rope color - recognition?) Runner. Name or voice. -Follow skiier -Can zoom in -One click mount -Automatically adjust to object -Cheap -Durable -Watet proof -??? B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 23, 2014 Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2014 @kfennell can't change Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 i wouldnt pay anything for a pylon mounted camera that worked perfectly because i dont think one will never exist. all pylons flex under load and rebound upon release and that will probably always affect the raw video. there may be some image stabilizing software available built into the camera or in post editing but that will not have anything to do with the mechanics of a pylon mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 The least complicated idea I had of getting the camera off the pylon was to mount the camera on the engine box and have the camera on a track with a hole for the rope. I felt like people wouldn't accept a mount that might damage their engine box vinyl though and quit thinking about it. What's out there really isn't bad but finding that perfect setup can be a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Craig Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 Build a pylon mount for one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkhI4s6gLsA#t=43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 That's cool! What's it cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 soloshot2 cost 399 pre order 499 after there in production expected to ship next month. its a game changer for slalom video because it can be mounted off pylon. this is the one i will be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted May 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2014 That soloshot looks really cool. Combine it with a pylon mount and it would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I wonder if it can keep up with cross course speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 @Chuck_Dickey -yes the specs are max pan speed of 80 degrees per second which greatly exceeds the skier cross course data found on the old west coast slalom video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 @Chef23 -my opinion is you will never get good video from anything mounted on a pylon. being able to mount off pylon is what makes the soloshot so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rayn Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 Pretty cool system. Do you envision it mounting to windshield. Will the mount have any dampening at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 Pylons are just too shaky. We used to have a servo at the pylon that controlled the boar csmera, and we switched to a remote control in the tower, as even the servo produced shaky results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 i think windshield will be very steady if its not then perhaps no part of the boat will be but i have seen windshield mounted cameras and they produced great video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 I wonder about tournament use of that Soloshot. Hmmm... Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 soloshot might kill the high end pylon mount market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted May 24, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2014 Here you have a better video for the product... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Wow, maybe I should have taken up surfing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 24, 2014 Administrators Share Posted May 24, 2014 I talked to this company a few years ago (or one with basically the same product) they did not think it would ever work for slalom. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted May 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 25, 2014 @Horton -we will know soon enough if they ship on the time frame they said they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted May 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 25, 2014 Sweet idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted May 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 25, 2014 @mwetskier let us know how it goes. I will get one if it works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted May 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 25, 2014 Combining this with a drone to follow up would be a killer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller roda Posted May 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2014 Forget the moving camera mounts, a very high resolution camera with 120fps and software on-board to auto zoom and track the skier with a fixed lens is what I want. No moving parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted May 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2014 The SoloShot gets a lot of poor reviews. It's really finicky to set up, doesn't work well within 200 feet, and has trouble keeping up with with fast action. Too bad cause it's a neat idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted May 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 26, 2014 @SkiJay -the original soloshot gets 2 times more good reviews than bad ones and averages 3 and a half stars on amazon. the soloshot2 from this thread has not been shipped yet so there can not be any reviews good or bad. they list both water skiing and wake boarding as sports it will be suitable for and range the tracking at 10 -2000 feet for flat panning and 30 -2000 feet for panning and tilt. they also spec up to 80 degrees per second panning which would work for slalom. since i will never be skiing at 65 off the 10 foot minimum would be fine and if their unit doesnt live up to the publishes specs they will get it back in short order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rayn Posted October 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 14, 2014 Anyone try the soloshot2 yet mounted to the windshield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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