Baller Bulldog Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 With all the talk lately about new boat pricing I am just curious what you ballers THINK the price should be realistically....I know we all want really cheap boats with all the latest options try to keep it as honest as you can. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted January 13, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 I hit enter instead of "add another option" I wanted to have under 50K and "I am ok with over 60K...let them charge what they want. Tried but I am not sure how to add these questions - sorry everyone. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SBFL Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 Closer to 20k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Spuddy Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think that is a fair price I agree with @Bulldog closer to 50 might be more applicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GaryWilkinson Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 45 k seems to be fair. $90,000 is funny and sad at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted January 13, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted January 13, 2015 40 is really my number. I can make that work if the depreciation is slow enough over 10ish years of ownership. Above that, I'm part of the used boat market, which honestly I never thought I would be. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 @bulldog you cannot change a poll after you enter it, unfortunately. I'm just naive or so old, I guess, that I think boat companies could make money at 40k to 45k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 I would be curious to see how much it actually costs to build a 200, CP, TXI, or Prostar. If the time ever comes, a new engine and ZeroOff in my 94' are looking more inviting. If I do buy another boat it will be the last one I buy, ever. I would be willing to pay a little more upfront for long term durability. My other concern is if they keep making the boats bigger, storage and towing will become a problem. I hope they keep them around 20' or less. The price of a boat now per the MSRP is more than my mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 I vote for under 60k...oh wait there is no choice for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 Only way I could ever own a slalom only boat is if I lived on a lake, because I'd need 2 boats. For a slalom only boat under 40K, for a multipurpose boat under 70K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 I marked under $40K, because I'm sure I will never pay more than that and more likely less than $30K on a high quality, low hours, used tug. New boats out-priced my sense of reason some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 13, 2015 Administrators Share Posted January 13, 2015 @Bulldog Do you want me to lock this thread so you can start over? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 $40k tops is the magic number for me. I'm also all about paying below $30k on a used 196 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted January 13, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 @Horton I think it's working the way it is. I just wanted to have a thread regarding the extremely high costs of the new boats and what some of the Ballers think. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 13, 2015 Administrators Share Posted January 13, 2015 Mmmm k. Under 40 for a new boat = Gekko or nothing Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Justin Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 I've skied behind the new Prostar and plenty of 200's and in my opinion no way are the pull, wakes, power, comfort and quality worth 7-8 times the value of my old 95' with a GT-40 and Stargazer. They are beautiful and don't get me wrong I would love to own a new one, but I truly think manufacturers are going in the wrong, unsustainable direction. $40K seems realistic for a new direct drive without the bells and whistles of the wake boats, NO - towers, ballast, tower speakers, lights, racks, storage, seating, stereo systems, surf systems….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 If don't include choices for abovee 40k,then this this poll is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Edbrazil Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 In another thread, I mention that our Ski Club paid about $7,000. for a MasterCraft in the mid 1970's. Which would be a little over $30,000. today, considering inflation. And, yep, there have been improvements in quality and ski-ability since 40 years ago. My admiration is out for you people who can fork out $$ in the range of 80k for a ski boat these days, and not suffer the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted January 13, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted January 13, 2015 $40,000 to $45,000 seems reasonable, including ZO, trailer, cover, base boat. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 Pricing now days is out if control. I bought three brand new boats. 2000 MB for $26,000, 2004 MC 197 $36000, 2005 Malibu Rlxi for $34000. It's crazy boats have more than doubled in ten years. I'm happy with my current boat paid for 1999 SN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gt2003 Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'd say between 40-45,000. That seems affordable and realistic with the financing options available now days. If you want to enter the wake/surf arena, maybe 10-15,000 more? Seeing new boats over $100,000 just seems WAY outta reach for most. On a similar note, I've passed by some of the new bass rigs and can't figure how they can charge $50,000 or more for them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerR Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I always hunt for a deal. I also tend not to buy new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted January 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2015 http://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/12429/what-is-your-realistic-price-for-a-new-slalom-tug-v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted January 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2015 Part of this depends on what you have to sell. My 2015 MC would not have been at all a reasonable purchase except I sold two boats to fund 2/3rds of the purchase price. Sold a 2005 Prostar (mine) and a 2009 Prostar (mine, but used by the Iowa Ski Team), coughed up $20k out of my pocket and I was there. If I didn't have something to sell, my price vote would be less than $40k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinonstop Posted January 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 15, 2015 Just bought a 2015 Prostar, the fifth one that I have owned. The first one was $11,500 in 1985. This one pushed $70,000, More than I paid for my first home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted January 15, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted January 15, 2015 @skinonstop Wow that puts the price increase in perspective. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted January 16, 2015 eventually you guys know I have to say it Centurion Centurion Centurion Centurion Centurion Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstateskier Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 @Horton Centurion is still a mid $50s boat and only offered in a closed bow config. Are we saying less fiberglass and adding vinyl is now a $10K option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted January 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2015 I "drank Horton's Kool-Aid" and took the Centurion option, makes a lot of sense. If you want a great pull, and save $10K - $20K, the MC and SN have some very cool options but they aren't worth that much IMO. (OK actually it's my third Centurion, have had great luck with them and my dealer. My 2000 Eclipse had great slalom wakes, but the CP tracks better and is the perfect slalom tug for my needs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 17, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted January 17, 2015 It would be nice to not add taxes on top of the 55k plus prices. You never recover your tax money and on top of that, you hook up the boat and pull it away from the dealership and it depreciates 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2015 And your MN sales tax is pretty darn high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 17, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted January 17, 2015 Its like California moved to Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted January 20, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted January 20, 2015 Taxes are never good on big boy toys... "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted January 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'll always be stuck in the used boat/car market. I'm just too damn cheap. That being said, I think everyone should buy a new tug boat and as soon as possible. I want zero off and they haven't reached my price range yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted January 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 20, 2015 @MS that is why in MN you always want to buy slightly used from a private party - no sales tax. Always found it odd that used boat sales are taxed if you buy from a dealer but not an individual, something to do with the DNR not being a tax authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 20, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted January 20, 2015 @oldjeep I have not registered a boat since I quit the CC promo team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted January 21, 2015 @oldjeep I bought my SN 196 from son watersports on consignment...same deal no sales tax if on consignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 21, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted January 21, 2015 I hope @Mark_Dayton isn't reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted January 21, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted January 21, 2015 Anything to not pay taxes on boats is always a good thing. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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