Baller Garn Posted May 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm quite surprised that with HO's new V-Type, I hear very little about it. I'm really interested in this ski but I would sure like to hear more about it. Horton, how soon will you be reviewing it? I'm on an S2 now so I would really like to hear how it skis and how its different than the S2. Garn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 My neighbor who runs the course around 32 mph and is ~60 really liked his after changing from an S2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 22, 2015 I mount mine up a week from tomorrow Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OKSkier Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 It would be awesome if someone could compare it with a 2014 A3 please Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 I skied it tonight. My vapor is on SIA (as soon as I can get SIA to work) and ordering my V type ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 Apologies to Horton, I am sure his review will be more on point , but Cale Burdick has done a review you will find it on the web , for what it is worth I do know somebody who was on a S2 who moved to the V Type, he is now skiing on the S2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 @Ilivetoski say what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 @mattP yeah I really think that ski can be the key to me running 32 every time and doing something decent at 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 @Ilivetoski while you may prefer the V Type there should be nothing about the Vapor that would prevent you from running 32 regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 @Ilivetoski I take it you have been demoing one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 @chef23 I don't think the vapor was holding me back at all. I just felt like the V type is able to slow down before the buoy better than the Vapor and that has been my whole issue at 32. @MattP if you call 2 sets demoing, then yes. I knew on the 2nd pass this was a better ski for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 Well, if you're having issues slowing down before the buoy, honestly it's not the ski. I'm going to predict that after the honeymoon wears off on the VType, you'll be chasing the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 23, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2015 Slowing down at the ball or not could be related to a lot of things. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaleBurdick Posted May 23, 2015 Members Share Posted May 23, 2015 @OKSkier I tried out a 2014 A3 last year for about 15 sets and multiple fin settings and liked the predictability and stability in the turns but found that it was too slow for me. I never really got the zip out of it that I needed. Also, probably related to lack of speed, it didn't cast out after the edge change like I needed. I felt like I was always struggling to get wide. I'm trying the V-type now, see my review on youtube, it feels very similar to the A3 in respect to the turns, but is faster and casts wide. Compared to the A3, I feel like it's lighter under my feet and I can get the tail wider than the tip earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted May 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 23, 2015 What sold me on the ski was not that I was slowing down at the ball but how smooth the turn is and how much angle I got. I felt like I was running earlier passes than ever. The offside feels better than ever and I just like the ski better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OKSkier Posted May 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2015 @CaleBurdick. Thanks very much for your response. I watched the review-appreciate it. I'm just a 28-32 off skier and the A3 has been great. But always looking for an edge. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted June 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2015 I have a few sets on a vtype now and @CaleBurdick nailed it. It gets stupid wide compared to the A3 and turns effortlessly. I cannot say if it is a ski that I will love at this point based on onlyva handful of sets but as @Horton said in his review, "it's the best HO since the A1" I've been riding the syndicate skis since the monza came out and have tried a bunch of other sticks including the vapor (which I really liked). it takes angle so well it may be More work behind the boat vs the vapor but it turns effortlessly for sure, is stupid fast and casts out so well compared to the previous A1-3. I can't wait to get more sets on it. I'm running stock settings but went to 9deg on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox197 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 i have heard from a little bird that next years v types will be a black/yellow, black/copper and a white version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gginco Posted June 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2015 The V-Type is really awesome! It really should get no bad press. The "hype" momentum seemed to never happen but it's the best Syndicate yet and can go toe to toe with any ski out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TWB Posted June 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 19, 2015 My first tournament in 29 years will be on a V-Type. I have 3 sets on it. Probably shouldn't have done that. I can't say that I'm as comfortable on it as my previous ski, but I'm skiing just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dropski Posted June 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 19, 2015 mine is very smooth compared to my A3, but my brother's overturns on the offside horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 19, 2015 Administrators Share Posted June 19, 2015 @dropski your brother's settings right? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted June 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 19, 2015 @dropski binding placement and fin surface area I think will make a big difference on this ski. There is more of sweet spot with the v-type than the A2, for sure. has he played with any settings; the tip dampener? wing? binding position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dropski Posted June 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2015 @Horton @wtrskior I meant onside turn, we both got our skis from Greg Badal and believe they are not stock fin settings. They have sanded bevels as well. We are getting some calipers to check and move the fin to stock. We never have played with fin settings before but could try moving the bindings, they are at 29.5 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted June 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2015 My v type tends to do that when I drop my inside shoulder. @dropski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2015 Has anyone played around with the tip dampener? @savaiusini would love to hear more about it and the black pad that came with the ski. Is it different from the factory yellow rubber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 23, 2015 Administrators Share Posted June 23, 2015 @dropski 29.5 is correct for the 67. I recommend 6.875" 2.490" 0.725" 8 deg Front boot @ 29.5" Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dropski Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2015 thanks @Horton I'll give those numbers a try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller savaiusini Posted June 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2015 @wtrskior the dampening pads are the same material, we just give you both if you prefer one color over the other. As far as the tip weight itself, I encourage you to play around with the placement fore and aft as well as without the weight. As skiers, we play in a game of subtle adjustments. This is another way to fine tune the ski to your personal liking, much the same as a fin or wing adjustment. Sam Avaiusini - HO Sports Company - Director of Inside Sales and Business Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2015 I skied my first sets on a new V Type this week. The passes all felt comfortable and predictable, since I am coming off an S2 I expected that. The ski definitely achieves better angle and I will have to be ready for that, still and tall helps. I have my boots(OB4) back a little, as that also worked for me on the S2, 29.125. I generally run my fin with less depth as I like the ski to wash around a little easier in the finish, 2.470. I ended up with the length at 6.860 to loose some tip pressure on the off side. A good first try... More sets to come. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam1 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I've just bought a V-Type, after trying out an A3.. Which I really liked! Ben told if I like the A3 I'll love the V-type... After skiing on The Stradas for a good few years, one thing I noticed is the HOs really Favour your offside !!! Why is that so..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 27, 2015 Administrators Share Posted June 27, 2015 @OB the definition of a Kool Aid drinker is unwillingness to believe that another ski could possibly be as good Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted June 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 27, 2015 @Horton, OB doesn't drink kool aid, he smokes crack....and he's an addict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2015 @OB when you going to get on some real bindings and quit ejecting yourself every other pass? Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 28, 2015 Administrators Share Posted June 28, 2015 Oooo lord Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted June 28, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted June 28, 2015 Yes, officer, I was standing on the sidewalk when the shooting began. No, I have never seen either of those people in my life. I was hiding behind this car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2015 @Than_Bogan LMAO!! Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2015 @OB nobody hates you or Goode, but there are other quality products out there too. Glad you are liking the new ski! Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted June 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2015 @mmosley899 Could you post your DFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2015 @Jim Neely after a couple of more sets, I made the fin deeper to slow down the washout on my good side turn, 2.480; the dft is at .735. Still need to work on not dropping my shoulder inside on good side turn. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 29, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted June 29, 2015 Not true, lots of people hate @OB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted June 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2015 @mmosley899 and @Jim Neely When you are measuring the DFT are you using the number where the caliper touches the the back of the ski which is actually a little inboard of the actual tail due to the way the ski tapers in the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller savaiusini Posted July 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2015 @mmosley899 here's another set of 67" fin numbers to keep in your back pocket. They have been working really well for me: 6.970 2.450 0.725 Sam Avaiusini - HO Sports Company - Director of Inside Sales and Business Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2015 A new 67 black V-type is heading my way from H2O. After a few rides I'll be looking for some help getting it set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted July 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2015 The V Type is something special... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted July 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2015 @gmut The easy answer is yes. I actually use an EZ fin tool and measure to the very back of the ski but I initially determine the difference between the two points. I found the difference on my V-Type to be 0.1 On the Vapor the difference is 0.080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2015 @Live2ski I sure hope so. My 67 black should be delivered tomorrow. It's the first time that I'm really excited about a ski since I bought my Phantom back in '01. I was pretty excited to try the '15 Superlites TX and CX, but was not comfortable with the feel of the clean edge tail. A few skis have peaked my interest over the years but none enough to really want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2015 The ski is here. @Horton @savaiusini Where do you measure from/to to set the front binding to factory spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 3, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 3, 2015 Oh yeah, ski is 67, bindings are XMax. There is a 1/4 inch difference between the back of the heel piece and the back of the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 3, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 3, 2015 Furthest back part of top deck behind fin block Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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