popof Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Hey Guys, Just reaching out for some advice from the pros ! A friend of mine just sold his house by the countryside, it had an access to a river with an 86' MasterCraft which gave us many good runs a couple years ago but hasn't really been used for the past 4 years approx. I have a place i can actually park it, and can figure a use to it, it wouldn't become my slalom boat as we ski in clubs here, but could be a boat to share with friends. I'll look into details of insurance, cost for parking year-round etc etc, but just out of curiosity, is that boat a keeper? Something one should stay away from? i'm not really looking into buying a boat, but this friend is actually either gonna give it to me or just give it away to whoever shows up first! the idea would be to invest a couple '000€ to get it up and running (, make sure the engine is OK, fix whatever is needed, new upholstery and stuff like that, it already has a tower) and use it as a recreational boat to wakeboard / tube / trick / freeski if it reaches 36mph... Any inputs greatly appreciated! Thanks for your help! Romain ps: not even sure it's 1986, but somewhere in that area...
Baller Andre Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Posted June 22, 2015 No wood stringers in 86 MC so if the engine is running or need minor work can't go wrong with free. Just don't put to much money into it.If it need and engine or the fins,shaft and rudder is rip apart,just say no thanks. Good luck! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance!
Baller jhughes Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Posted June 22, 2015 86 was a unique and killer slalom wake year (relatively speaking for the period, let's be serious). The old "Rainbow Brite" stripe pattern is a bit polarizing but that year in particular they had a big dish in the hull above the prop with tons of lift. I don't like the ergonomics, layout, or driving characteristics of the 80's MCs but for a recreational boat it should be just fine.
Baller swc5150 Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Posted June 22, 2015 We still have an '86, just for a fun/cruising boat. It's rock solid and a blast to drive. Like the man said, there's no wood in it, so it'll last a lifetime. We pulled the carpet, and underneath was clean, white gel coat, so we've put off the new carpet install. It's much easier to keep clean now, but a little (very) slippery when wet!
Baller Andre Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Posted June 22, 2015 @swc5150 On the MC forum someone just replaced his carpet with anti-fatigue mat from Sears that come in a roll of 8'x36'' (about).Looks like it had some grip texture too... He kept the carpet in the gunnels and bow. My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance!
Baller swc5150 Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Posted June 22, 2015 We kept the gunnel carpet as well. We do have new carpet to install at some point, but a non-stick mat isn't a bad idea for the time being.
Baller Stevie Boy Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Posted June 22, 2015 Sometimes it's just time to wave goodbye, not all that shines is golden, if somebody is giving it away, that should tell you something. Spend your time skiing, not riding around in an old tub.
Baller swc5150 Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Posted June 22, 2015 I couldn't disagree more with that. We run our 196 or bro's 200 for skiing, but a ride in the pontoon boat, classic Chris Craft or MC is such a pleasure. Priceless family time cruising.
Gold Member TustinTom Posted June 23, 2015 Gold Member Posted June 23, 2015 As long as you remember that you "may" get out of it what you put in to it, up to roughly a $5,000 ceiling w/it running/newer interior and trailer. If you spend less than $2,500.....that IS the boat you lend to friends without reservation (driving/docking/drink spills etc). We have a 89' that runs like a cat. 2 carb rebuilds, a couple of batteries & tune up kits along the way. Still on the original steering cable. Very dependable, low/little maintenance for a DIY guy. I ski behind a different/newer boat 90% of the time. But the MC 190 is still great for the times on lake/river with non-ski and ski friends alike. If it get you out on the water a few more times, isn't that worth it?
Baller gregy Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 86 was the last year they had the old style open layout. 87 they kept the same hull and had more of a swept back windshield and much more crapped inside. I did really care for the 87.
Baller eleeski Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 If your focus is on class L scores, forget the boat and fork out the megabucks for a new boat. If you are filthy rich, forget it. Fork out the megabucks for a new boat. If your focus is getting your kids into Open, this might work to preserve your fortune until you need to fork out the megabucks for a new boat. If you just want to ski, enjoy the ride! Over half of the 35off passes I've made were behind my 79 American Skier - an older boat. I've made a few behind that vintage MC. Yeah, I've made a couple behind the modern ZO megabucks boats. But the old boats can get you there too. For pure fun and great performances, that boat rocks! Eric Hmm, ZO in my 79 American Skier? A worthy project?
Baller TallSkinnyGuy Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 @gregy I think the 86 had the same hull as the 85 version but had a different deck. Then in 87 they changed both the hull and the deck. I'm not a fan of the 87-90 version of the 190 but I think the 86 has a nice, classic look (though not as much as the 85). I think it is a keeper if in decent running condition.
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted June 23, 2015 Baller_ Posted June 23, 2015 somewhere I have a picture of @eleeski 's garage contents piling up and around and all over that 1979 American Skier, it is truly the perfect boat for a ZO upgrade !
Baller brody Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 The 86 was a slight change over the 85, and didn't ski as nice but it's still worth it if it's not gonna be a money pit
Baller 6balls Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 I'd take it if you think it needs less than $3K in work. Our college ski team was gifted a '82 stars and stripes in 1992 with 2000 hours that looked like junk. Carb rebuild, manifold gaskets, starter, plugs and we were off skiing. It was one of the club boats for a good 15 years. No fancy electronics to go bad...basic carb engine...should be fine.
popof Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 @6balls exactly my idea! ;) All, thank you for all of your inputs, again, this friend is seling the house and living in an appartment downtown, has absolutely no place to ski, and married and got kids, not into skiing anymore (not judging ;) just analysing!) So I guess I'll take it and have it "audited" by my club's mechanic. if it has wood in it, (m&aybe it's older than 86? don't know), or if it needs >5k, will in turn give it away or just dump it, if not, will try to keep it for recreational, spare boat. I'll try to find a pic to show you guys which model it is By the way, is there anywhere online a library of all mastercraft models with techs spechs and stuff like that? Didn't quite find anything? maybe not looking in the right place? Many thanks again romain
Baller swc5150 Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 @popof http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=29236
E_T Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Check out The Mastercraft Project group on facebook. That's where all the boats hangout
Baller MattP Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 I love my classic '84MC. If you do not want it I'm sure I can find a friend of mine to take that '86 off your hands :D
Baller ALPJr Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 @east tx skier may have a better history. I believe the 86 had the 87 - 90 hull with the 80 - 86 deck.
Baller wtrskior Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 @ALPJr that is how I understand the '86 although I believe they also tweaked it a few times between 87-90, so not exactly the same hull. http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=29236
Baller foxriverat Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 You can find a lot of old issues of waterski magazine in google books. Here is 1987 boat buyers guide. https://books.google.com/books?id=8B02AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA8&dq=1986+ski+boat&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KZ6JVan2DouZgwT0oIMg&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=1986%20ski%20boat&f=false
popof Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 Thank you for your help guys! Actually I'm actually even starting to doubt it's an MC? I had it as a given but now that I think of it, the only elements I have are the attached photos, anyone recognize which boat is that? My friend told me it was an MC 86, might as well be something else, haven't seen that boat in 4+ years, couldn't really tell?
Baller jhughes Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 Wow, that's quite a frankenstein. The hull looks like a model "2001" Ski Nautique, 82-89. I can't even begin to place the rest.
E_T Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Not a MC.. can you read a HIN number on the right side of the stern?
Baller east tx skier Posted June 23, 2015 Baller Posted June 23, 2015 That's not a MasterCraft. As for the 86s, those with original graphics are easy to spot. I can't remember how they fit into the hull evolution. I tend to remember more about the 91 and newer boats.
Baller_ Wish Posted June 24, 2015 Baller_ Posted June 24, 2015 I've NEVER seen a tow pylon like that.
Baller 6balls Posted June 24, 2015 Baller Posted June 24, 2015 Well, I've seen a lot of boats in my day...but none like that one. Franken boat. Funny trailer, @wish never seen a pylon like that? How about the swim platform and the enclosed top down (I assume brackets)? I'm thinking I don't want to be gifted that boat...though could take it and put it out at auction for whatever you can get.
Baller Edbrazil Posted June 24, 2015 Baller Posted June 24, 2015 Well, you could always turn it into a planter, which was the eventual fate of my old Crosby hull. Sold the Merc 125's, and the hull hung around a marina gathering water and sprouting weeds. I have seen a Frankenboat, a few years ago for sale near Alton Bay, NH: A Ski Supreme disguised as a Mastercraft. Up for sale, with the owner probably hoping that the decals on it would bring in more money. But, the hull # told the true story.
popof Posted June 24, 2015 Author Posted June 24, 2015 hahahahah well that's embarrassing!!!! That friend thought it was an MC, I assumed he was right (again, hadn't seen the boat in a couple years), and dugg out these pics ;) Well i'll ask him what kind of boat it is, and i'll check what it is made of etc , then i'll have it audited by my club's mechanic and decide what to do with it ;) Will keep you posted!
Baller_ Wish Posted June 24, 2015 Baller_ Posted June 24, 2015 @popof if it is from France (?) or in France as suggested above, could it not be some sort of over seas manufacturer?
Baller Stevie Boy Posted June 24, 2015 Baller Posted June 24, 2015 Like I said Bosch made boats similar, heavy, big/hard wakes, made in France or Germany I believe.
Baller Edbrazil Posted June 24, 2015 Baller Posted June 24, 2015 I remember the Boesch boats pulling the 1991 Worlds in Austria. Looked about like Chris Craft inboards from the 1950's. As did their wakes. An oink-oink of a boat. They had some kind of a contraption on the pylon for jumping. Men jump won with 189 feet.
Baller Stevie Boy Posted June 24, 2015 Baller Posted June 24, 2015 @Edbrazil thanks for the spelling correction, but you are right horrible boat to ski behind.
Baller dchristman Posted June 25, 2015 Baller Posted June 25, 2015 mmmm... big hard wakes... maybe it's a good trick boat? :p
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