Baller skidawg Posted November 26, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 26, 2015 I have not tried the 68-trying to get weight below 190- 67" is a good motivator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 @eddie_roberts_jr - any update on the windows for the Vapor? If there a chance it does t happen or is it coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted November 27, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 Not gonna happen for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 Thx Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted December 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2015 @BRY glad you are liking the new ski! Same to you @SkiJay. @DanE I believe a 67 will suit you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted December 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2015 @Chris Rossi ... I am 6'4" @ 225 lbs, at Nationals they were telling me to go with the 16 Vapor in the 69.5" since he ski turned so well.. The words were, "Take a page out of the Nate Smith playbook and ski on the biggest ski you can turn well." I am currently on a 68" Mapple and was trying to decide if I should stay at 68" with the Vapor or go with the 69". Thoughts, THX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted December 1, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted December 1, 2015 Rossi would certainly be the final word on this but I would think the 68" Vapor would be plenty of ski for you, especially in light of the fact the 68" Mapple was working. Our 69.5 is 1.5" longer and proportionately wider than our 68 as well. Can you check one out at Performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 @Ed_Johnson I would say go 68. Especially if you like the 68 Mapple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 @Ed_Johnson I ski at 36 mph but I went from a 68.5 Mapple T1 to a 68 in. Vapor. It didn't feel smaller to me. I would bet that if you went 68 it would feel great. I am 6 foot 2 in. And weigh in at 225. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 Thanks, will do @Chris Rossi @skier2788 ... Appreciate your thoughts and comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 I know it has a lot to do with personal preference, but it seems the majority is saying the 2016 is a completely different and much better ski than the '14 green top? So if a guy likes the green model, he'll likely prefer the 2016 much more? This is a round about way of asking if I need to spend the $$ on a new ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 @swc5150 i have been riding Radar since the first yr Strada 2010 and have been fortunate to ski each new model as they have evolved over the last 6 yrs. Going from the 14 green Vapor to the new 16 Vapor has been an amazing upgrade for me! Don't hesitate pull the trigger!! Happy Turns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 Thanks @markchilcutt Nice to hear from someone who's been on each incarnation. I can't wait to ride one now, but spring is a ways off here in WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 @swc5150 if you like your 14 green machine you will love the 16!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 +1 on trading green for 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skislalom Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have ridden and owned both the green "14" and the new "16", the 14 was one of my all time favourite skis, I have found the 16 to feel faster, both across course, and carrying more speed through the turn. It is so quick off the back of the ball it's ridiculous, and never have I had a ski turn so symmetrically on both sides, I am particularly impressed on the offside, where the ski doesn't get stuck, it just seems to keep moving even when I drop a shoulder and break at the waist, I ski 55kph, pb 3@13m. I am just starting my season and had around 10 sets on the 68" and it keeps getting better and better every set, there is so much forgiveness and stability it inspires you to have a go for that next buoy, even though you know you shouldn't, but then you turn it and shoot off to the next, I have really enjoyed all my ski's but this one I love, and I can't wait to see what the season has in store for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted December 5, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted December 5, 2015 @eddie_roberts_jr has never built a ski that I could not ride going back to the Monza. Each ski built every year is always better so I say get the wallet out and loose the green ski. I have not been on the 16 yet but I know the blue Vapor was faster and turned easier then the green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lff Posted December 5, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2015 What is the purpose of the window on the Vapor anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skislalom Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 @Iff purely cosmetic I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted December 5, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2015 @lff (warning: wise ass answer) It was used to sight the ball during tip rise in older models. It would be a vestigial feature on the 2016 since there is no tip rise, so they are leaving it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 22, 2015 Looking at the 2016 size chart, a 65" is for 110-145#'s; a 66" 125-180#'s. Normally I'd order a 65", but after just reading BLP's article, perhaps I should order a 66? I'm 140-145lb's and ski 34. Any expert advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted December 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 23, 2015 @swc5150 how tall are you? I'm thinking 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 23, 2015 @Chris Rossi I'm only 5'8" Still go 66"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 20, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 20, 2016 My new Lithium is on the way, so just a couple tech questions. Being a 34mph skier and lucky to make a 32 off pass these days, should I leave the wing on? It's a habit of mine to pull wings off, for good or bad. And will the proper measurement for binding placement come with the ski, or any advice? I'm putting my Vectors (rtp) on it, if that matters. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted January 20, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 20, 2016 @swc5150 Leave the wing on. Rossi numbers work really well, from Rossi's post earlier in the thread: "My personal settings Boots - 65 28.5", 66 29", 67 29.5", 68 30" Fin - 2.465, 6.940, 0.733 9 degrees I have also been setting 34 mph short line skiers at the numbers below with lots of personal bests posted and is where I set skis at for nationals: Boots - same as my boot recommended location above Alternate fin setting - 2.460, 6.960, 0.735 9 degrees" I am a 34 skier as well. Brooks set my ski up at Nat's with the Alt settings. I am slightly longer and slightly more DFT. Works awesome. If your through 28 you definitely can use these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 20, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks @BRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted January 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2016 @swc5150 did you end up getting a 65 or 66? Glad you are liking the ski @BRY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2016 @Chris Rossi I went the 66". I hope you're still in agreement with that length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted January 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 24, 2016 @swc5150 Id start with 29" 2.460, 6.960, 0.730 9degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 27, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 27, 2016 One more binding question. I was planning on transplanting my Vectors onto the new ski, but am I leaving any performance advantage on the table by not just buying a Vapor front (I use an rtp)? The Vector seems to have plenty of support, and it's really comfy, but I also want to get the performance capacity out of the ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 @swc5150 I would not change your current binding set up until you get used to your new ski. Once you get comfortable and confident on the new ski then it would be worth switching to the Vapor bindings. The new ski is insane!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 27, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 27, 2016 Thanks @markchilcutt Finally some good advice that won't cost me money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 3, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 3, 2016 @Chris Rossi I mounted the Vector at 29". Is it ok that there're two exposed mounting holes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller parkerc2112 Posted February 7, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just received my 68" 2016 lithium. I'm 6'2" 218lbs. Front binding placement? Stay stock on fin till comfortable? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted February 7, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2016 @parkerc2112 Go 30" exactly front binding, fin 2.460, 6.960, 0.735 9 degrees. These are killer starting numbers from Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted February 7, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted February 7, 2016 Hey Scott, What size is that Vector boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 7, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2016 Small. I have a size 8 foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 7, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2016 My daughter likes it. She gets mad an yells "mine", if I take it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted February 8, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted February 8, 2016 You have it mounted correctly.. The small Vector doesn't utilize the front 2 binding inserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 9, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2016 Thanks @eddie_roberts_jr I have two extra screws to plug the holes with, to keep out river gunk. From the binding placement, it seems like I'll be riding closer to the tail than on other skis, but I trust Rossi knows best on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted February 9, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2016 @swc5150 Looks like you are ready to take that ski for a rip! Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ironhorse Posted February 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2016 Picked mine up on the weekend with a new set a of Vapor boots. I found the boots fit small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted February 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2016 @ironhorse did you heat/stretch the liners? Frequently they fit small until you heat and fit the liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just got a new Vapor! This is one exciting ski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted February 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2016 I can't tell who's happier Sully or @markchilcutt ! Glad to see skis are at the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 @scotchipman that one didn't have the new graphics and was not my ski to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted February 15, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 15, 2016 @ironhorse @Chef23 my experience with the bindings as well. I have size 14 feet and they were snug even without the insole until I fit them using the toe cap method. Feel great now, even with the insole in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted February 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2016 Love the stoke @markchilcutt! @ironhorse glad to have you riding the ski! Make sure to heat mold those liners for a better fit. My boots feel too short when I first get them but after heat molding the boots, they fit perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 @Chris Rossi thanks for taking that pic of Sully and I and thanks for always adding to my stoke!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Congrats @scotchipman !!! Honestly never thought you would own anything but Goode. Once you get some time on the Vapor you will be killing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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