Baller rodltg2 Posted September 11, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 11, 2015 Saw this posted , apparently built by Bryant. $39k. Certainly interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted September 11, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 11, 2015 Ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Obermeier Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Weird and definitely outside-the-box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MNshortliner Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Looks like 3/4 of a real wake boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thinking outside the box is cool but I don't think that boat is. It would suck to be in that thing in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 @Bill22 -if it's raining just leave it inside the box until the rain passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted September 12, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2015 It doesn't even look like a boat to me. Looks like some sort of newfangled zero turn mower with a roll bar and passenger seating. Must be for when the kids want to ride on the mower with Dad. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 12, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2015 SkI Tractor rumors are out there. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 12, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2015 You guys do realize Bryant boats is run by ex MasterCraft CEO John Dorton? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Centurion Carbon Pro is already the prefect ski tractor. Damn did they just set out with a goal of making the ugliest boat possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Perfect? Come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted September 12, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2015 To really revolutionize ski boats, design an engine that fits completely under the floor to provide the interior seating layout of a v-drive with the balance, weighting, and wake of a direct drive. Instead of a 90 degree V8, make it a 180 degree inline 8 with four cylinders each side and a profile that is about a foot high. The whole deal basically lies flat under the current floorboard in the middle of the boat and no motor box. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 maybe it looks better in person ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 We use our Carbon Pro like a tractor. I started calling it a tractor 3 years ago. We put 600hrs per year on a boat and the current CP has 1,100 hours. We work it hard and its holding up great. The price differential on wake boats leaves more room for a low cost alternative, cool idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 We are cracking jokes but look at how short that thing is. It looks about 14'-15' long. If I was a wakeboarder with a small garage it may be worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Functional and cheap for sure. But that thing is one fugly tug boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 12, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2015 18' and 40k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 That low nose sure looks easy to swamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 12, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2015 Bet it sits different all ballested up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Doubt that it will actually be 40k once on a trailer and equipped in a standard way. For 40-50k you can buy a used vdrive that doesn't look like a 10 year olds idea of a boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 I like that it is an innovative way to get people on the water. Some people like to buy new. It would be interesting to see if they come out with a ski version with ZO. We have used the term tractor with our boats for a while. I have a 2002 Malibu LX and it is in good shape for a 13 year old boat but it has definitely hit tractor status. I would love ZO but I am way off the upgrade curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 I love the center driver position! I also like how all the other seats are setup in a way to allow them to be easily changed from front facing to rear facing. What I don't understand is why it has to be so short, squatty, and ugly. If it was $20k-$25k and threw a good wakeboard wake, I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to overlook the low seating capacity and hideous looks. But $40k....no. I'm sure it could be closer to $35k if they got rid of the stupid touchscreen and just used a standard cruise instead of ZO. My understanding is the whole concept of this boat was to appeal to the younger generation that wakeboards and wakesurfs and I applaud them for that. The 18-25 year old crowd who actually want these giant V-drive boats obviously can't afford the $150k+ boats coming out now. The people who do buy the $150k+ are much older with kids and they want all the luxury features imaginable so they can take their family and their friends family out on the lake to go tubing in style and comfort. It's a sad fact but an incredibly true fact that the majority of boats these days are built for people who don't use them the way they're meant to be used. This boat is designed with a single purpose and despite it's looks, this is the kind of thing we need if the middle class is ever going to be able to buy a new boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Shorter boat might mean less surface area, less weight required to submerge the hull in the water and create a big wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 12, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2015 Look at the one on the trailer and see how the platform is slanted in a significant upwards direction. Pretty sure when level with the water surface do to ballasts being filled it has a completely different look. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 12, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2015 Innovative company if you ask me. This the the Bryant Sport Porch. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 12, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2015 Looks a liiiiiiitle bit better from this angle...and certainly more level. I think the front of that trailer is jacked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 After reading the Mastercraft forum on this, I don't think it looks as bad as the pictures shown in the first post and I agree with @wish that I don't think it would look bad in the water which is wear it's supposed to be. I really hope it takes off. We need companies who are willing to tailor products to what we need and not what we think we want. It sounds like a dumb concept but it's what the entire automotive industry does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Edbrazil Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Center drive: very interesting. I had a twin rig back in the 70's with center drive. Once talked to Rob Shirley about making a MasterCraft with center drive. Would think it should be better for driving a better SL centerline path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Center line drive is something I, and I'm sure other ballers, have pondered many times as well. I applauded Bryant for not only thinking outside the box but actually have the balls to produce this. Could lead to current tug manufacturers revisiting what is practical and possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 Now we know what the designer of the Short 360 is doing. That was one ugly airplane! This is one ugly boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted September 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2015 @Wish I like my Porch attached to the house not moving around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted September 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 13, 2015 I like it. I also like the thought of what might happen if someone took such a creative approach to a slalom boat. Eye of the beholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chris_logan Posted September 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 16, 2015 Months ago I heard talk from a reputable source about Bryant turning out a DD ski boat, and now the pieces are beginning to come together and meet the public eye. I found where Bryant has already trademarked "SKI TRACTOR" ... trademarkia.com/ski-tractor-86489603.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 16, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 16, 2015 Believe it or not but Bryant boats have been featured in WSM boat buyers guides in the past. And they were not DD boats. However, they must have felt their boats were water ski worthy and may have always aspired to jump in the fray of DDs. Maybe that time is now for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 Cool...can't wait to see what creative "Ski Tractor" Bryant comes up with. Hope it's something unique, functional and affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what happens to molds of old, but still awesome boats? Like a early to mid 90s ProStar for example. Are any of these still out there, or even better yet, available to purchase? It seems like that might be a way to create a new ski tractor, but from a proven hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted September 17, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 The tooling and sourcing all the fit and finish is what gets expensive quickly. The mold is just a small part of the puzzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 @jcamp some have been destroyed, some sold around the world, and others might still be hanging around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted September 18, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 18, 2015 It seems to me that they are making the old 90s Prostar in South America. And, it seems they are doing the 197 now, too. http://www.masterboat.com.br/ The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 18, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 18, 2015 Molds do not last forever. When a big boat company makes hundreds of boats from a mold it is junk when they are finished. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2015 Bryant is a quality boat maker. This think looks quite different, but it's a great effort at trying something new. The I/O boats have lost a lot of money to the surf market--and they need to respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeTractor Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 The Ski Tractor is coming BTW. Designed by the team that brought you the ProStars. High style at a low price because we are just focused on the essentials...wake, tracking and handling. More to come next spring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 26, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 26, 2015 John I have some concerns about the WT1. Seems to be no communal party spot in the boat. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 26, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 26, 2015 @ejj is that sarcasm? What Mr Dorton is doing is fantastic for the sport. If these new products lower the cost of entry & apply pressure to the other manufacturers it is good for all the consumers in wake and slalom arenas. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 26, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 26, 2015 @Horton no sarcasm! I think Bryant is the best stern drive company out there. I love the idea behind the WT1. I trailer a Regal I/o boat so I need something similar, but with surf and ski options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted September 26, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 26, 2015 Why make a center drive in a boat that is not supposed to be driven in a course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 It's a wake boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 Although it's interesting that the stern drive makers are figuring out how to make a wake surf boat. And the WT1 is a V drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 @ejj "It's a wake boat" That was my point, do you drive a wake boat through a course? Why the need of a center drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 @DanE sorry that was a dumb response by me. I'm not sure what you mean by center-drive. If you mean inboard, there are laws about protection from the prop for surfing. It's still a V drive with the engine in the back like a standard wake boat, vs a direct drive like a course ski boat with the engine in the middle of the boat. It's an interesting entry to the market--I see it also biting into the PWC market--some people have almost 30k into two PWC might look at something like this--still relatively easy to store and tow. But it can surf and wakeboard well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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