Baller Glydon Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 Almost looks like it should say Nike or Reebok on the side , definitely should allow the ski to flex under foot from the little I can see so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo2204 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 @Glydon I don't think that those little pillar like things will change anything about the ability of the ski to flex under your foot compared to the boots we have now. Simply because as far as i can see there still is a plate under the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 I would like to see some real information about them. I haven't seen any so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 Better picture here https://instagram.com/p/7dv77lH4TX/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Nando Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 Radar- style release or no release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 18, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OKSkier Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yeah - where is the release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @Glydon I agree they should let the ski flex more. Looks like the plate is only under the toe & heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted September 18, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 18, 2015 looks like a copy of the Radar Vapor to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 They look really tall. The hardshells they made based on the Fogmans were very tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Glydon Posted September 18, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @Chef23 in keeping with the Connelly tradition of tall boots I agree they are tall. @Bill22 that is what I noticed in my original post was the "elimination" of most of the plate material so by design they have to let the ski flex more. I would love to try a pair of them , my current rubber bindings are not setup to release so it is a non-issue for me. After a front out, back in fall I have worn my bindings SUPER tight as I would rather fall with the entire ski still attached! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @richarddoane If they don't have a removable heat molded liner, I don't think you can say they are a copy just because both are a hybrid closed toe boot. By just looking at a photo it's hard to make an option. We don't know what the frame is like or how stiff they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller The_Krista Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 A little more info...probably more than you'd like :) The new Sync bindings and free flex tech are a patented technology from Connelly... "Normal" single metal baseplates create a dead spot, limiting the intended flex pattern of the ski. The Sync Dual Plate is designed to allow your ski to move the way it is supposed to. The free flex connection also has wide mounting points so you can transfer more energy more efficiently reducing the amount of torque needed to put your ski on edge...the boot moves power from your foot through the flared base of the Exolast and into the dual plate system. Traditional plates reduce intended flex by 20%, mono-plate systems reduce intended flex by 40% and the free-flex system with the Syncs do not reduce the natural flex of the ski. Also, the Syncs boast a seamless shell which limits stitched connections in the upper boot, transferring more energy and movement directly to the ski. The new boots also have a heel pocket which holds your heel in place and reduces movement inside the binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @The_Krista do the bindings release? It is tough to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller The_Krista Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @Chef23 no they don't...they are not a hardshell / release system...they are more like how Radar's closed-toe bindings operate...once you're in...you stay in! (My personal preference:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Glydon Posted September 18, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @The_Krista thanks going out to the girl that "defined" marketing for water ski bindings. Beauty and Brains ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted September 20, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 20, 2015 @The_Krista Which are you wearing for your wedding? Hard shell or traditional rubber? Personally, I think the colorful new Connelly binding will not go well with your dress, but probably will work best on the dance floor. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller EFW Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 Non-releaseable bindings? -----NO-----DFI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller EFW Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 Laces another SFI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 @The_Krista you said "they are more like how Radar's closed-toe bindings operate"... as in RS-1/Strada/Vapors? An inner liner that releases from the outer boot? Or like the Radar Profiles? (more like a wakeboard/traditional boot... your feet come out when the fall is hard enough). Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rq0013 Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not to throw @the_krista under the bus but all Radar boots are releasable. I thought this to be true but confirmed just to be sure. So to make everyone aware here, what Krista said about Radar boots isn’t true, they’re all made to be safe and release in the event of a fall. I can’t say that about these Connelly boots, I know I trust my Vapor boot though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 24, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted September 24, 2015 @rq0013 I think there is some terminology confusion here. On the one hand there are boots where the entire boot releases from the ski somehow. On the other, there are setups where your foot releases but the boot stays in place. I think all that is being said about these new Connellys is that they fall into the latter category. There are also true non-releasable boots: no way to ever get off the ski. I do not think any major manufacture sells such a thing, but a handful of skiers have made their own and prefer that. Personally I think they are completely nuts. To me, these new boots look like they would be impossible or nearly impossible to release in a lot of important situations. But safety/performance tradeoffs are very personal, so judge for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted September 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'm assuming the lime green basket looking contraption along the bottom of the boot is the release mechanism, and the whole boot comes off...but that's just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TallSkinnyGuy Posted September 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 24, 2015 My Connelly Talon bindings have two separate laces on each boot -- one for the top of my foot and one for the ankle area (as many bindings of this type have). The boots were shipped to me (new) with the non-stretchy laces in both the top and bottom sections. First thing I did was take those laces out and replace them with the bungee laces that were also supplied as an alternative for the top section. There were no bungee laces supplied for the bottom section. I have since modified my lacing further by not using the highest lace loops over the bottom section because even with the bungee laces around the ankle cinched loosely I could not get my foot out of the binding with the lower laces cinched snug enough to feel like they were supporting my feet. I can't imagine the heavy impact I would have to take for my feet to come out of these bindings if I used all the lace loops and used non-stretchy laces in both top and bottom. Perhaps Connelly is actually producing bindings that are not designed to allow your feet to release from the ski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 24, 2015 @9400 skip up 8 post, they don't release like hard shell. I think @Than_Bogan has the answer to a little confusion. I could not think of how to put it in words. No springs or moving parts = no release "system" (release like rubber bindings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted September 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 24, 2015 @Bill22 I see that now, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OldboyII Posted September 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 24, 2015 Purely theoretically - two not releasable boots might be pretty safe setup. Hardly can cause twisted knee, ankle or achilles injury and/or hamstring problem. Like snowboard or wakeboard with not releasable boots. OTF and other kinds of falls is another story which may happen with any boot system. If in addition to that, if not releasable boots on releasable monoplate it is probably the very safe construction. IMO. On a wakeboard had problem only once - when one foot slipped out from boot and board twisted my knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Glydon Posted September 24, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 24, 2015 @Than_Bogan I am nuts ... D3 Leverage tightened way tight ... had a one in one out one time and it was not pretty , had I stayed in I would of been ok. All that really got hurt was a swollen knee and some bruised ego! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 24, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 24, 2015 @OldboyII ....Amen ( nothing is 100% safe ) @Than_Bogan I've been called worse. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller The_Krista Posted October 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 1, 2015 @rq0013 and others...i just meant that the bindings don't have a release system like something like a Reflex would have...as in the more traditional style of bindings. Sorry for the confusion and late reply...had to go and get married and stuff :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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