Baller ejj Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 Anyone had a chance to ski the Katana? The old Theory and P6 were basically big course shapes with wider rails. The new Katana seems much more open-water oriented. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GOODESkier Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 When I worked in the motorcycle industry, the Suzuki Katana was nick named the "Can-a-tuna". You can only hope for better........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 27, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 27, 2015 @ejj I have not personally seen the ski but the @eddie_roberts_jr has been talking about this project for a long time. Word is it turns on a dime so yes it should be good as a starter ski in the course. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 The Theory was one of the best skis Radar made! You could actually run some really shortline lengths on it although it was an entry level ski. Very good ski, sad to see it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 27, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 27, 2015 The fact that the line of skis went from beginner..sorta P6 and advanced through the line..Theory, Senate, Strada.. with similar, if not the same design, was brilliant. You could go from one, master certain speeds, and pick up the next in line with minimal differences in how the ski felt. Perfect for advancing. That alone makes me recommend Radar over any other ski manufacture for someone getting their feet wet in the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Obermeier Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 @Skihack I disagree that the Theory should be considered necessarily an "entry level" ski. You could/can run some serious short line on it, just can't do it at much more than 30 mph. So IMO it's a different mind set (think INT League Wide Ride division type skiing). Yeah it makes a decent beginners ski too, but with a ton of headroom to advance on line length wise and as such technique wise. As you get older and want/need to slow down a bit you can still get serious on it without everything happening quite as fast. Different mind set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 27, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 So is the HO TX going to get a lot of the Theory customers? Does the Katana compete more against the HO Freeride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 Believe me it was with a bit of trepidation that we said goodbye to the Theory and the P6, but as we started developing the Katana and Butterknife it was pretty evident that they were both better than the skis they were replacing and a big improvement for the intended skiers.The way the Katana's big inside radius initiates the turn while the deep 3/4 length grooves pull it through the turn and hold the edge is amazing. The turns are automatic on both skis and wake crossings are better than on their predecessors. The Butterknife is a wider version of the Katana. Both skis are easy to get up on, extremely stable and and have very low drag and a very high co-efficient of fun and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 27, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 27, 2015 Can't believe I gave my blue Theory away :( Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted September 27, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 @scotchipman I have a pair of the v-werks Katana 191 that are absolutely badass! Love em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted September 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 27, 2015 I have my blue Theory and love it. It has seen and run some serious shortline at 32 and 34 mph. You just have to work a little harder behind the boat due to it's width. It is a very good ski in that I have used it for entry level skiers and it has run 35 off as well. Not many skis out there that can cover all levels of skiers imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted September 28, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 28, 2015 @eddie_roberts_jr - are there binding placement recommendations yet for the butter-knife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted September 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 28, 2015 Just this summer I've taught 6 brand new skiers to get up and ride on a 69 Theory. 1 skier is now running a few balls on the full course. I've ridden it and several times I've told the guy now getting into the course that his ski is fantastic. I'm with @Wish, in that I loved that skiers could progress through the line, and he's jonesing for a Senate. I get what @eddie_roberts_jr says though, a better ski is a better ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted October 5, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm getting a new ski for next year and have been looking at the P6. Do you think a Katana would be a more direct size replacement for the P6 ? Seem that butter knife is quite a bit larger than the p6 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted October 8, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted October 8, 2015 Get the Katana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad72 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I just picked up a 2011 P6 (slim seconds hand ski picking in Australia)and have to say it is great to ski on. I was after something that could manage the course but also ski the lake since most of out time is spent there. Turns well, nice and stable and the boots are comfortable. I got the 67" and ski around 28-30mph. I have a size 12 foot but the 7-11 binding fits well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gt2003 Posted July 24, 2017 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2017 So, @eddie_roberts_jr , if I'm wanting to slow way down in the course to finally have a chance of getting through it, maybe 26 mph (215-220 lbs), would you recommend the Katana or an older theory? My vapor is just too much ski for me right now so time to put the ego behind and get the right ski for my ability and needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted July 24, 2017 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2017 I think I would go with either a Butterknife or an older Theory if you can get ahold of a 69". That was a really good ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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