Baller oldmanskier Posted January 17, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2016 I went to Atlanta Georgia boat show yesterday. Only one three event ski boat at show. One Mastercraft pro star. I am sure Ray Crenshaw was the reason that boat was there. Thanks to Ray for still supporting ski boats. Malibu, Nautique and Centurion all had many Wake/Surf boats of all sizes and colors. But those companies did not have a single tournament ski boat at the show. Very disappointing to me. A possible positive note: Wake Tractor had several boats there. A very different looking boat with a center drive console and PCM engines. John Dorton (former head guy at Mastercraft a few years ago) was one of the reps at Wake Tractor booth. I had met John a few years earlier when I was skiing at Chet’s place. John is a very nice guy and when I mentioned meeting him at Chet’s he said that they were working on a 3 event Ski Tractor boat. The Ski Tractor would not be a center Drive console and be somewhat more traditional. They were designing it to be a 3 event tournament boat. From my understanding they would have a model that is bare bones for skiing. Boat, engine, Zero off and whatever is needed to be a safe bare bones ski boat. I hope John and company can pull it off. I look forward to seeing the new Ski Tractor in the future. As for Malibu, Nautique and Centurion I would think they could at least make sure one Tournament ski boat from there companies was represented at a large boat show like Atlanta. Oh well, just shows I am old slalom skier longing for the 80’s and 90’s heydays of water skiing. Oldmanskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted January 17, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2016 It would be nice to have more 3 Event boats at the shows but when you think about how much it costs for each dealer to attend a boat show and the limited floor space, plus where they make most of their profits...... it's understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted January 17, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2016 I saw boat show pricing on it $43 k. Seems a little steep for it. But so does $225k for a new malibu !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baller Texas6 Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 Surely you meant 125 and not 225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 @Texas6 , no I meant $225k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 @Texas6, after seeing the prices of new boats at the Houston boat show last weekend, I am content to keep what I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 Bummer I didn't even realize Atlanta had a boat show this weekend. I probably would've gone but sounds like I only would've seen 2 boats I was interested in so maybe it's best I didn't know. I like wakeboarding and pull a lot of wakeboarders myself but the prices of wakeboarding boats continuously makes me think the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 For what it's worth, I was at the Toronto Boat Show on Saturday. Again, there was only one 3-event boat at the show, but this time it was a Nautique 200 OB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 Wow. Just wow.....breaking the 200k barrier on a depreciating asset that pulls wake boarders is just unfathomable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Glock Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 No ski boats at the Portland boat show. Two 200k plus boats, Malibu m235 and the nautique g25. One highlight was Stancraft, who just bought the local mastercraft dealership, brought a gorgeous wooden boat. That was only 335k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 MSRP on a decked out 3 event boat can be over $100k, so $225k retail on a wake tug does not shock me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 Ouch, must be pushing 300k here in AU after conversion and tax... Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted January 18, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted January 18, 2016 It all seems unsustainable to me. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Spuddy Posted January 18, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2016 @andjules I was at the Toronto show and mastercraft did have the prostar there so 2 three event. The guy at Malibu said they sold the LXI so did not have one at the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wolfgang Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 Agree with@Spuddy. There were lots of wakeboard and wake surf boats though. Judging by the large number of sold signs there must be a lot of inheritances rolling in these days! I'm guessing that people want to buy before the full impact of the weakening Canadian dollar takes effect. I also believe that the aroma of new fibreglass is addictive and overrides all logic and reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 Makes you wonder where all this "economy crisis" stuff is coming from when so many people can afford these boats. I live very comfortably but I can't afford anything close to the boats coming out these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 @waternut when you finance a boat for $500 or less a month for 240 months it seems very affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 I've heard that people can get 20 year loans on these high dollar boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller h2onhk Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 Personally I like owning my stuff vs. the bank owning it. Not too mention I can buy a lot of boat gas for a $500/month boat payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 Boat shows just aren't for the three-event crowd. I don't know a single hard core skier that would go to a boat show to buy a boat. We all know much better, and cheaper, ways to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 @dbutcher You're correct, but banks have been offering 20 year loans on boats for decades. I have a close friend who bought his '86 MC on a 20 year. As I recall it was $118 a month, with a metric ton of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
block Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The Wake Tractor is produced at Bryant Boat Co. in Sweetwater , Tennessee. John Dorton purchased this company several years ago and along with his son is doing an excellent job growing and evolving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The trick is to get people behind one. The interior was lacking and there almost zero floor space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 It's crazy, to me, at 100k for 20 years, you'd basically have a 2006 Ski Nautique that you owe $60,000 on today, and could sell for what? Mid to low 20's? Unsustainable, is a good word, stupid, crazy, screwed...... Just other words I associate with a $100,000 Ski boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 19, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 19, 2016 @E_T how much $ is floor space worth? It is a TRACTOR that is the point. Affordable and super basic. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 I did get a chance to talk with the wake tractor factory rep this past weekend. The current WT-1 is bare bones surf boat and designed to get people on the water at an affordable price. The next version WT-2(?) is scheduled to be released this year and will be configured like a "normal" wake boat. The ski tractor is still in final development and hopefully will be available in the next year. They are taking their time and not rushing to get a product out before it is ready. I am told it might be only available from the factory made to order which is fine with me. I think the price point is great, if the wakes are as good as I am hearing I think it might become a training boat for many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 19, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 19, 2016 @block I talked to John Dorton a few months back and he told me the WakeTractor & SkiTractor would not be Bryant products. They would be some other brand. Not sure if that is just semantics or not... Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 @Horton "HeyDay Inboards" is the company name being built in the Bryant Factory. They secured a non compete contract and created a fully separate company. They are turning out boats and are starting to ramp up production to get more boats down the line in a day. The product is not officially launching until February I believe and their dealer network is being setup across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 Be interesting to see how many of those they sell at $43K(ish). In that price range you can buy a pretty nice used V-drive that doesn't have the interesting aesthetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 It'll be interesting to know what the actual selling price is. $43k looks to be the "boat show special", which usually is still an inflated price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 Anyone else notice the draft on the WT-1? I'm sure it's fully loaded but 31" seems really DEEP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted January 19, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2016 @Waternut - that is kind of the idea with a surf boat, sink it to create a big wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lieutenant Dan Posted January 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2016 @Waternut The Malibu M235 referenced elsewhere in this thread has a draft of 32" (with a dry weight of 6200 lbs!). Gotta displace some water to make those gnarly waves, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted January 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2016 The surf boats ten to draft 30-36 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted January 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2016 Another note: anyone see a DD/V-Drive Dealer selling these? My guess is these companies have a no-no clause in the dealer agreement. No dealer at the Minneapolis Boat Show. The local Bryant dealer said no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted January 23, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 23, 2016 Minneapolis would be a tough market due to having a crapload of available used Malibu's at that price point and the biggest dealer in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiermanbrad Posted February 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 6, 2016 Just got home from the Dallas Boat Show. The Wake Tractor was definitely the most interesting boat I saw tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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