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I once had a close look at my handle in a weird fall at -35 and have used a handle guard ever since. But I've always thought the risk of sticking my head through the handle was negligible until shortline. A couple of days ago I clipped a ball during a -28 pass and fell head over heels. I didn't think much of it—until I saw my pylon photo.

 

People talk about how they'd avoid sticking their heads through the handle by holding or tossing the handle in a safe manner. I wouldn't count on it. I didn't even know I was in danger until I saw this picture. I wasn't pushing any limits when this happened either; I was cruising my opener in calm conditions. And though my imitation of a lawn dart went unpunished this time, I still feel compelled to share this picture showing how far past the handle my head hit the water. The handle is at my left hip, and my head is closer to the boat than my hips. Apparently, it's possible to stick your head through a handle at -28, and probably even at longer line lengths.

 

The moral of this story is that handle protection isn't just for shortline skiers.

 

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  • Baller
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WTH? Did the Whale Wars crew drop a prop fouler line at that buoy to catch your fin? Speed bump? 5-ball monster was really hungry that day. Damn. Glad you're OK.
  • Baller
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I once crashed and ended up with the handle behind me, through my armpit, on the way through it hit the inside of my elbow so hard I thought it was shattered. Fortunately a week of rest and ice and it was ok but scared the living #$%& out of me. It was at 28 off and I pretty much run that in my sleep, today it's my opener. I've used handle guards since before then but don't see very many others with them, individual choice I guess.
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It doesn't happen real often but...

The more you ski,the greater the chance of it happening.

Waterski is like sex.Practice the safe one! :)

My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance!

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I changed handles this year and added a handle guard for the first time. My thinking is it is essential free insurance with no impact to my skiing. Why not?
  • Baller
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I've always thought the "just toss the handle" argument was a bunch of bull. Some people think physics don't apply the them. They are wrong.
  • Baller
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Can anyone recommend a 'handle protection' that currently is available [or will be in the spring]? If a stand alone product, what is the best way of attaching it to an existing handle? - cable ties usually leave a sharp protrusion even if clipped short. Would relatively thin bungee cord work? Thanks.
  • Baller
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Don't blow me in to TW but I've always made mine out of plastic 5 gallon buckets, sand all the edges and corners, and used zip ties, never had issue.
  • Baller
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I make my own out of Rubbermaid lids. Next time I attach one to my handle I'm going to use trot line instead of zip ties. The best homemade one I've ever seen was made of thin conveyor belt material tied on with trot line.
  • Baller
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Definitely not for shortline only, and falls happen so fast there is no way to "throw" the handle away from you. I only had my arm go through the triangle once many yrs ago on a -32 fall and it happened so fast I didn't realize what happened until swimming to shore. I was lucky, just a badly bruised forearm and wrist, but it makes you realize how quickly things could have gone much worse. Always ski w a guard now, even open water free skiing.
  • Baller
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I made one out of some thin poly carbonate sheet and attached with some left over bungee laces from some old RADAR bindings. The bungee attachment has worked great now going on third season.
  • Baller_
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Comment on tossing the handle, I toss my barefoot handle off to the side when doing a barefoot slide drop, and got quite a surprise one time when it must have rebounded off the table edge and smacked me in the leg. Consciously tossing the handle is a good practice (in addition to a handle guard) but it may not end up where you expect it to.
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@Texas6, I was thinking of doing that exact same thing. I asked Brenda if she would put the cross bar closer to the handle, but she said the location was not optional. So, If I do this, I may need a second small/narrow panel above the cross bar and just use the cross bar as the hinge between two panels. I wanted my guard to be within 2.5 inches of the handle for arm protection. I may still do this and order the cross bar with my next handle.

The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.

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@MISkier - yep, that's a good idea. I thought about that but also figured eliminating 50% of the space below the cross-bar by filling the triangle, was eliminating at least some of the problem. I've never had a crossbar get in my way, but there is certainly still room for my arm, albeit less room, and no room for my head.
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If you are handy with tools make one. I made my first one from a plastic homer bucket.

Currently using FM's handle guard. Have had it on my handles now for over 5 years as do all of team Seal Handles. Stephen had the hardest time adjusting but in slalom I think it did give him better handle control.

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made this guard by cutting out cardboard then my brother in law had it cut out using a cnc machine at the local college. Works great more than enough room for arm and it was easy putting in N or had a RADAR put in for my radar rope. Plastic was cheap and if you know somebody that has access to a cnc that should be cheap too only took 10 min to do.gvzwrt33e8hm.jpg

 

  • Baller
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A friend I ski with just uses duct tape. Works great, easy and cheap. Basically just doubled over on itself. I've been meaning to do it to my handles for a while now, just haven't gotten around to it (famous last words).
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I will caution that I haven't been able to keep one of these on yet using zip ties, as they all seem to snap under load and flex. Just might want to try it prior to a big commitment
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@Texas6, I have had no issue with zip ties.

 

Here is one I made out of some HDPE from Grainger. The zip ties are Ty-Rap brand with specific stainless steel tongues. They hold much better than the generic versions at Home Depot, etc.

 

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The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.

  • Baller
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Be careful with the zip ties. A lot of them do not have UV stabilizers in them so they will become brittle over time. You might want to replace them on a regular basis.
  • Baller
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Shouldn't be that much stress on those zip ties if the triangle is sized right, and positioned correctly. If the triangle is too small and it pulls the line inward when slack, then under stress it will pull on them.....tie off the rope and put tension on the handle as you size the triangle.
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We had an incident the weekend just gone at the Australian Junior Masters. I was driving the under 21's men's slalom with a skier rounding 6 ball @35off. I felt a sudden jerk on the rope and looked in the mirror to see him spinning flat in the air, above the water. Got back to him and jumped in to help him. He had been grabbed at the back of the head by the handle (it was bent) If that handle had got down to his neck I'd hate to think of the outcome. my opinion is we really need to mandate handle protectors in our sport. I have had one for about 4 years, (bought it through ball of spray @Brewski)
  • Baller
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Plus one on @ Brewski guards. I have one of his originals. He told me last fall that he would have a new, patented version out by Christmas, but haven't heard anything since. Hopefully he is able to get them to market!
  • Baller
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Another vote of encouragement for @Brewski here. Mr. Wayne has stopped responding to all of his known email addresses for nearly two years now, and I've tried over a dozen times. Clearly he no longer cares. You can put me down for two the day you're ready @Brewski.
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I bought probably my last TW handle guard from @SkiJay. This was after TW stopped answering emails and kept the $55 I paid for a guard I never received. For the moment, I am using that last guard and making my own. I would like to see some new options out there.

The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.

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Just received and installed my fluid motion guard. Took a week and 1 day to get from canada to florida, not bad for winter shipping.... Ready for the weekend.

 

And, it came with a cool DVD. Don't know if thats a normal thing for them or not.

 

  • Baller
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Just did a couple sets over the weekend with the FM guard. They say the center stay can be removed, I'm trying with and didn't notice it at all.....will remove later if it becomes an issue.

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