Pending new world record

[RPT]

Looks like @NateSmith43 just ran 3@43 !!!!

[Horton]

@MattP tells me that finals may not be sanctioned..... there may be drama

[Horton]

Mmmm let me pull that back.... there COULD be drama or maybe not

[skihound]

Nate was so consistent today. Would be a shame if it does not count.

[Lars]

Happens at about 27 minutes left of the third stream:

 

[Horton]

Here is the source of confusion. One would assume there is not actually an issue. Are there 2 or 3 rounds of sanctioned R?

 

 

[RazorRoss3]

It looks like 2 rounds plus 1 cash round. It is unclear to me what the class of the cash round is.

[Horton]

My phone is blowing up with texts saying there was no sanction for round 3. Seems unlikely. I assume all is good w/ score & record.

[MattP]

@RazorRoss3 Thats how I read it. If you compare to Masters in the same screen shot you can see 2 Rounds of R which includes 2 rounds of Cash Prize. If we read it the same way for Swiss. It is 2 Rounds of R and 1 of those rounds is Cash Prize. The 3rd/Finals round does not seem to be sanctioned at all as F/C/E/L/R or even Cash prize. It is confusing for sure.

[RazorRoss3]

So does that mean that technically one of the qualifiers wasn't sanctioned?

[MattP]

@RazorRoss3 that is where I see the possibility of the score getting submitted. Either all the skiers from Round 1 or 2 do not get their score in the books and the 3rd round goes in the books with Nate's record submission. Either way someone gets hosed. Hopefully wiser people in the sport make the correct call. I do not know the right answer.

[ozski]

Amazing to think that its going to take a piece of 4 ball to go beyond the new mark assuming it stands.

[Horton]

@MattP i will bet a 6 pack of IPA that in the end all 3 rounds go in the books.

[RazorRoss3]

I think @Horton is probably right but isn't there some IWWF rule about no more than 2 L scores allowed per skier per day? Or am I just crazy? The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive

[Wish]

D3 thinks it counts.

 

[ozski]

D3 are going to push that message regardless of what they think :)

[303Skier]

All speculation...Let's sit back and see it unfold.

 

I was there and it was very dark and seemed like it was going to be legit if the boat path was good.

[Texas6]

I love seeing how fired up @Chad_Scott got driving that pass for Nate. He was genuinely proud and excited for him and to be a part of it.Thats one of the cool things about this sport that isn't talked about much; but the support system is long and wide

[MattP]

@RazorRoss3 Not exactly. See the rule below. I think you are thinking of the rule that limits the number of sanctions per site per day/weekend. I can't member that exact rule off the top of my head.

 

AWSA Rule 15.02

F. 1. The maximum number of rounds, which can count for the IWWF rankings

list or records, is limited to four (in each of slalom, trick and jump) at any one

competition – meaning consecutive days at the same site.

 

 

IWWF - WORLD RANKING LIST DESCRIPTION AND SCHEDULE

The ranking is based on the average of each skiers' two best scores from two separate tournaments and two separate sites. Only one score in each event is considered from each tournament. Each

IWWF Federation sanctions Record Capability or World Standings List tournaments from which

the performances are taken

[RazorRoss3]

Thanks @MattP, that must be it. I just remember seeing some pros at 6 round weekends this year who would ski the first 2 rounds and then skip the 3rd both days. The 4 limit in any given weekend would explain that behavior since you wouldn't want to take all 3 rounds day 1 and then have only 1 round to put up a score day 2. So with that in mind there should be no problem with having 3 rounds of L/R go into the books assuming that the 3rd round (the final) was sanctioned. I haven't sanctioned an event in several years and even when I did they were all class C so I'm curious, is "$" one of the available classes? Is it Grass Roots, C, L/R, $ or is "$" an add on to the traditional classes like C, C$, L/R, L$/R$?

[swc5150]

Wasn't there a thread a couple of years back saying no one would ever round 3 ball at -43? Congrats to Nate! Can't wait to see the video!

[Texas6]

i remember that thread and the opposition to the idea quite well.

[Than_Bogan]

CONGRATS NATE!

 

A little bit aside but relating to the last two comments: People forget how hard it is to show that something is impossible. They mistake "I can't see the way to do it" with "impossible." Totally different animals.

In fact, I use it as a tool occasionally. I set out to prove that something is impossible, and then I focus in on the parts of my "proof" that sound weak or hand-wavy -- they are where the "how to do it" can usually be found!

 

[ski6jones]

Here's a use of the word impossible. That was impossibly good skiing.

[RazorRoss3]

When someone tells you it's impossible they're really just afraid it isn't and don't want you to raise the bar. At least that's how I used to treat my power lifting, and I proved a good number of people wrong in that arena.

[UWSkier]

I can honestly say it's impossible that I'll ever round 3 ball at 43 off. Pretty comfortable with that statement...

[RazorRoss3]

There is a difference between "impossible for me" and impossible in general. I would agree my odds of 3@43 are slim (virtually none), but Nate just did it so clearly not impossible. I would also say that my odds of running 43 are slim (none) but I would never say it can't be done. There's some freak of nature athlete out there who will do it one day.

[DW]

Congrats to Nate, damn, that's impressive.

[GaryWilkinson]

3@43 just adds another 1/2 ball to the impossible that is what us mere mortals can aspire to.

 

Not alone thinking this,... Where is the video of this awesome performance?

 

Towboat, magazine, Random iPhone from the shore ???

Anyone?,...

Anyone?,...

[RPT]

The video is on Ballofspray home page , just go to the final Swiss video

[keithh2oskier]

@GaryWilkinson video link is in the 4th post by @Lars

[klindy]

Scroll to minute "28:00"ish in the video. The counter counts up with the webcast not down.

[Horton]

 

[liquid d]

43 will eventually be run....just a matter of time.

[skihart]

That guy is amazing. When you watch the webcast from Swiss you can see he really is in a class of his own. Nobody is even close.

[Nautibynature]

CP had to run 39 twice and wasn't that far behind him...I wouldn't say a class of his own.

[303Skier]

CP ran 2 at 43 in practice recently, definitely not in a class of his own.

[ozski]

I think the sheer number of -41's and the way he runs them puts Nate in his own class. Right now he's the one getting the most shots at -43 and he's the guy that everyone is trying to work out..

[skihart]

I watched all three rounds where everybody struggled and fought to get more than just few buoys at 41. Nate stroked it easily and I do mean easily ALL THREE ROUNDS. Then he rips off a 3@43??!!!

Like I said in a class of his own, period!

[Nautibynature]

How many bouys did he get at 41 at Moomba? Was Tgas in a class of his own there? Obviously Nate is a great skier but we will just have to disagree about who is in the class with him.

[Ralph Lee]

There's one man on the face of the earth to score 3 at 43 he literally is in a class of his own!

[Ralph Lee]

I can't get 3 at 43 free skiing

[igkya]

@303Skier Practice? We're talking about practice.. practice.... (for those that may not get this, look up the Allen Iverson interview - Practice)

[B_S]

In my view, Nate is like Mapple was in the late 80s and 90s. He is dominant. Sure, other guys get a piece every now and then, but he's the eagle soaring in the sky and the others are the blackbirds pestering him. Wasn't Moomba his first big tourney after his ankle injury? I'm excited to see Parrish back; should be an interesting and exciting summer!

[303Skier]

@igkya - LOL! What a Thug AI was.

[303Skier]

@skihart - 3.5, 4 and 4.5 and 5 is a little more than a few.

[igkya]

Won't argue that!

[Razorskier1]

I think we can agree Nate is incredible, and in his career incredibly consistent. More 41s than everyone else combined. That is not to degrade the skills of the rest of the field - these guys are all incredible. Can he be beat on any given Sunday? Sure. Is he the best skier out there in the men's field right now. Yes.

[Gar]

He's not human..kryptonite! Cannot comprehend! There are others too right in his rear view mirror but fior now he's the dominant leader may end up surpassing Mapple's domination but it will take years to see if he can hold on to #1 spot for another how many years to match Andy?!

[Wish]

Few of us were better then half way down the course watching and in the second round we watched Nate run his 38 with a bit of a bobble (for him) at 2 ball. Then he ran the cleanest 39 and we all commented how his 39 looked way better then his 38. Then he only got 1 at 41. About 30 seconds later we (not being able to hear the announcing) figured out that it was NOT a 38 bobbled at 2 ball. Minds blown...