Patmaster Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Trying to move from double hard boots (Fogmans) to reflex-like front boot, worried what to try as a back boot. Rear toe does not work, short booth that don't hold the heel do not work as well. Most people say Wiley's rear boot but I never liked that very much. Release of the back foot is a concern, of course, as is the "feel" of two boots, without which it may take too long to get used to the new setup. Ideas, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiep Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 Reflex rear Half boot. Love mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 The R-style is one of the most popular. However, there are a few, including Terry Winter, that run the double Reflex hard shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 @Patmaster Double MOB system is also an option and you get to keep your current boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 R-style, no turning back once you try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 HO Choptop rear boot. Love mine! And its half the price of Reflex's R boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmaster Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 @Garn, are you confident your back foot will go out of it once the front boot releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lakeaustinskier Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 I made the move from double FM boots earlier this year. I moved to a Syndicate "Reflex style" front boot and a R Style rear. I considered the Chop Top however I don't like the laces on the Chop Top. Too much variability with the laces (risk of over-tightening). Once I set the buckle tension on the R Style to my liking I took a silver paint marker and marked the buckle settings. Same buckle setting every set, every pass. Repeat-ability and reducing variables is very important for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller T_C Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 @lakeaustinskier how long did it take to make the adjustment from fluid motion. what did you notice to be the biggest difference between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lakeaustinskier Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 I came off the E Series FM boots. Front boot switch took 4-5 sets to get comfortable while the rear R style took about 10 sets. KEY to making the switch was keeping my same liners (including the rear liner- Trent F suggested this). Having my rear liners come up above the R style shell seemed to ease the feel of making the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pregom Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 Would anyone here consider Radar HRT as a suitable alternative? Pros? Cons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 I love my Radar HRTP. Releases when necessary but provides a solid feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 I would really suggest to reconsider the half-boot. I have been using this the whole season after 20 years using only a toe loop. And then you have @skiep who got to the half boot from a full double bindings set up. It really is the best of both worlds! Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 @Luzz, that split in the back looks like a great idea for helping to ensure a clean release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 @BlueSki Agreed, although the one I have been using doesn't have the split and yet I have released from it very easily (classic out the front offside turn approach crash :smile: ). I think the great aspect of the FM rear half boot is that it uses bungee in the front, so you maintain that giving feel of a kicker. Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 @Patmaster I'm 100% confident the back foot will come out. It actually comes out easier than the front. That's how I take my ski off - I just pull my back foot out of the binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 Coming from double boots myself (RS-1/ Connelly Draft/ Vector/ Profile), I can highly recommend the Radar HRT! When I made the switch to Reflex (front boot only) I tried a rtp for a few weeks. Never could get used to it. Used one of my old Vectors for a while but never felt safe enough with that setup. Finally I tried the HRT and instantly loved it! You can tighten it down pretty good to feel snug and controlled, but due to the shape, the foot will definitely come out in a fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted August 25, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2017 I've been on Reflex r-style for almost 2 years now and have been very happy. On otf falls I the you come out even easier than rtp. I enlarged the holes to give a little extra twist. I was on double boots for many years. I had no problems transitioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jaypro Posted August 26, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2017 I used a Radar Vector all summer with the laces really loose. It worked great, easy in and out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bdecker Posted August 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2017 Another vote for the R-style. My rear FM eseries cuff fell off and sank near 2 ball. I went back to the dock and bolted @"Pat M"'s R-style to the ski and proceeded to have the best set of the season as of that point. I ordered mine own on the way home and skied my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th sets on the r-style as tournament rounds. Works awesome. Keep an eye on the attachment screws though, mine did back out after 2 weeks of skiing and the hardware sinks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Booze Posted August 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2017 Regarding toe plates, I don't see how anyone could use any stock setup, let alone someone coming from doubles. But, take an ordinary Wiley-type plate, remove the rubber pad and replace with anti-slip tape and it becomes a different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now