Administrators Horton Posted December 2, 2017 Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2017 Not the 10 greatest skis ever but the 10 most influential or historically significant (non-wood) skis ever. Of course this is just wintertime conversation and conjecture. Goode 9100 Goode Nano One Taperflex Apex Kidder Redline Connelly HP O'Brien Sixam HO CDX/Phantom HO A1 KD 7000 EP Stiletto Ok Argue! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pgmoore Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 My first realish ski was a Kidder Redline (junior). My second real ski was a KD 7000. So, I have a particular affinity for those two entries on your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of my best skiing was on a Connelly HP. A college teammate was getting into 38off on his although he told me his were not stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 O’Brien TRC we all wanted one HO Extreme was the 80’s game changer Connelly Concept was solid....solid Jobe 1600 going Edge-to-edge tunnel when folks were still putting bumps in their rails. (I just reread and sounds wrong, just wrong. Leaving it) I’ll concede the Redline El Bruto with the tunnel Goode 9100 and I don’t like to admit he did anything good. (He really has) HO A1 Goode Nano 1 (just can’t argue) D3 X7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 Agree on the Kidders. Would throw the Connelly Shortline in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 Nope. @Horton got every one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 Only owned one of those, the KD 7000. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pcmcon729 Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 I think @Horton is pretty damn close, although, I would drop the HO A1, and Sixam, and add Connelly Concept, as everyone had one. The Goode 9100 was an absolute game changer. When I got the 9100, not many folks in the northeast had one yet. I felt almost like I had an unfair advantage on that ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 The El Diablo "Lil Monster"! Woohooo...and...the Maherajah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 2, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2017 @pcmcon729 I pondered the Concept. Connelly sold the $h*t out of those things. Perhaps they sold way more than the HP. The difference in my mind is that the HP arguably influenced many other ski designs from other factories. The A1 and the Sixam were clear game changers. Around the time the A1 came out, I went to the California Pro-Am and payed attention to what skis were being ridden by elite skiers who did not have a factory ride. At that time unsponsored pro skiers were overwhelmingly skiing on some Goode or the HO A1. It was the ski of choice for skiers in the know. Besides that I think that it was one of the first completely unique designs of the modern all carbon era. The DNA of that ski can be found in many skis today. The Sixam was the best ski Mapple ever designed and the first non-Goode that was really fast. It had some manufacturing & longevity issues so maybe there are not a huge number of them out there. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 With the love that the Vapor has gotten on this site, I can't believe that's not on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JAS Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 Not sure if the Concept or 5 buckle vest but certainly on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 Where's the Leeski? Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted December 2, 2017 Supporting Member Share Posted December 2, 2017 I broadly agree with the list. I think if it is sorted then the 9100 and the HP are 1,2. I predict the c-65 will be on such a list in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 Loved the Stiletto (after owning Comp's and FX200's...GX3 not so much). Also loved the KD 7000 and virtually all KD/D3 that followed til I jumped ship in 2010. Not influential in the market but best and most consistent scores ever on a Razor from 2010 to 2015. Denali 3.1 was just awesome--love the thinking behind their ongoing designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted December 2, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted December 2, 2017 Need to add the Tech-1 and Monza. Take the Phantom off the back of the CDX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 2, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2017 @DaveD Which Vapor? The 14-15, 16-17 and 18 are totally different skis. If the list was my personal favorite skis ever you can bet at least one of the Vapors would be on the list. I am going to say a ski has to be a few years older before it can be on this list. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegile Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 HO Mach 1 might make the list. What about the tunnel design of the Torque Supercomp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 @Mike Gile Best blowout ski ever! Coolest top design though!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 2, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2017 @Mike Gile yea that could be a major oversight on my part as long as we are talking about the original O'Brien Mach 1. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 O'Brien Competitor edge to edge concave. Ski let the regular Joe's ski right past the better skiers riding EP and Connelly Shortline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rich Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 The better Obrien way back was either the "special" an all white version of the original obrien competition. The really good competition had a red painted bottom that you had to take the paint off of. The less desirable mach 1 had a aluminum top and had the color on the bottom impregnated in the glass. That ski was too stiff according to Leroy Burnett. Leroy Burnett designed that ski along with the Connely HP. Bob Lapoint rode the Obrien competition usa for years with different painted tops in early to later 70's. It became a painted top jobe, maha. I still have one in my garage. Great ski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rich Posted December 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2017 that is an aluminum top, its slightly silver, the good ones were white called competition, not silver, called mach 1. The all glass one was white and had a softer flex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted December 3, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted December 3, 2017 O’Brien Competition and EP Comp 1 lead us from wood to glass. Maha really stepped up the binding part of the equation. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted December 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2017 EP Comp X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller cruznski Posted December 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2017 Great list! And in the course of history (that's a pun) I skied the Connelly HP, EP Stilleto, KD7000, Sixam (which I skied in a tournament as recently as 2016) and Goode 9100. Still have a wood 64" Obrien Competition which changed my world in the 60's. The Connelly Shortline. And have to agree with Taperflex but I do not recall the models thereof. Thanks for the concept of bringing his up. The Mahas , too- photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted December 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2017 Skis that took me to next levels: 9100/9500 Stilletto HO Extrme EP Comp X2 I got pregnant after the 9500 and still waiting to lose the baby weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller CBR51 Posted December 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2017 Apex, Redline, Concept/ Rocket, KD7000, Stilletto, SIXAM, Nano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Nando Posted December 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2017 The look on Dave Goode's face viewing the Leeski is priceless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bassfooter Posted December 4, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2017 Seems you'd need the World Team Comp or Mach 1 in there, along with the EP Comp 1 or X2. Totally agree with @lpskier that these lead the way quite nicely from wood to fiberglass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 4, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2017 I'd add the Connelly Concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wawaskr Posted December 4, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2017 Funny.....at the end of this season, I hopped on my old 2005 Obrien Sixam (because I had sent my Goode XT back to have all the inserts replaced) and was AMAZED at how great that ski is - I had totally forgotten over the last 10 years. Consistently turns great on both sides of the course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted December 4, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2017 Wow, I owned 4 of those and got to ski another 2. @Horton the one that makes me hesitate is the A1 - might have been more influential on the West coast? But as you say, it's DNA lives on. Radar's green 14 Vapor seemed to be a bigger hit up here in central/eastern Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted December 5, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted December 5, 2017 @andjules Shouldn’t you be lobbying for Saucier? Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted December 5, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2017 @Nando I was thinking the same thing @horton great list. I can’t improve on that and the comments added since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted December 6, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted December 6, 2017 @Horton : where would you rank the Fisher? I recall one element that impressed you was the manufacturing and quality of that ski and the potential knock on effect to the rest of the industry. It did seem to open the door for the Euro skis to enter the US marketplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted December 6, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 6, 2017 Could a high volume mid Range ski fit in? If so I propose to add the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 6, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted December 6, 2017 @DW the the Fischer was one of those super interesting outliers but I do not think it has really influenced the sport or the industry. If I was to do a list of odd ball skis the Fischer is for sure on that list. @gsm_peter again this list is not the most successful, best or favorite skis. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gar Posted December 6, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 6, 2017 Conelly Hook and Shortline, El Bruto, Skimaster, Mastercraft Mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 6, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 6, 2017 x2 for Green Vapor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted December 6, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 6, 2017 @gsm_peter The senate is based off of the strada or vapor anyway. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted December 7, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted December 7, 2017 Oops. Wrong thread. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted December 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 7, 2017 This first skis in my mind were the Kidder Redline and the Jobe Honeycomb. My dad has one of those O'Brien Mach 1's in his garage. His ski collection from the 60's and 70's is quite spectacular. I was thinking that the HO Mach 1 from the 80's was a pretty popular ski in its day too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted December 7, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 7, 2017 The look on Dave Goodes face while Eric explains his ski! Priceless!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jaypro Posted December 8, 2017 Baller Share Posted December 8, 2017 as it says "my most influential", no list can be complete without the first ski that you ever ran a full pass on. Granted, that is different for every skier, but it is also the reason all of us come this this forum every day. That ski, no matter what it was, was the most influential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 22, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2019 Working on my Stiletto review and thought I would bump this thread... Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted October 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2019 World team comp first full edge to edge ski Mike mac built string 3 the rest of the list is spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller harddock Posted October 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2019 Ya'll too young. EP Comp 1 was a game changer for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted October 23, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted October 23, 2019 Western wood syderhoud 900 Duvall 1100 Duvall Connelly HP HO CDX Connelly Concept O'Brien Mapple O'Brien sixam first edition. Radar Strada 2019 Radar vapor pro build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted October 23, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2019 @horton your list makes sense, tho it seems to me that the Goode 9500 would have to be in there. That ski came out and people just started winning on that thing. People still treasure the ones they have. Personally, I couldn't turn buoys on it, but I'd say that that over the Nano One. Also, the O'Brien Mapple has got to be there. What about the F1? D3 X7? Okay, this is a much more complicated task that I anticipated. I give up Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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