Administrators Horton Posted July 18, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 18, 2019 18th July 2019 The IWWF World Waterski Council has approved Regina Jaquess New Women's Slalom Record 4.5 buoys @ 10.25 metres set on 6th July 2019 at Lymand Land USA Duncanville, Alabama. click here for video http://www.iwsf.com/RecordApplications/Jaquess4.5@10.25/Reg%2041%203.5%207-6-19.mp4 Regina, the current IWWF Women's World Waterski Champion and has broken the last four world records. 2012-06-17 Regina Jaquess USA 3@10.25/55 Cedar Ridge Early Record 2 Canton, MS USA 2014-06-07 Regina Jaquess USA 3.25@10.25 Big Dawg Warm-up 1 Cedar Ridge Lake, Canton, MS USA 2016-11-05 Regina Jaquess USA 3.5/10.25/55 Isles Junior Invitational Isles of Lake Hancock Ski Club, Winter Garden, FL USA 2018-07-16 Regina Jaquess USA 4@10.25/55 July Heat Isles of Lake Hancock, Winter Garden, FL USA Source http://iwwf.sport/regina-jaquess-new-womens-slalom-record-4-5-10-25-metres-approved/ Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 18, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 18, 2019 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 That is why she is my favorite skier to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Alternative comment: Can you imagine how many records she could beat if she skied in Europe!? *runs for cover* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 18, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted July 18, 2019 Regina -- Thanks for setting a WR on my birthday! Almost a footnote to some incredible skiing, but that is one sweet boat path! Who's the driver? Huge kudos to him/her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jaypro Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Is Regina the most dominant skier, male or female, that we have ever seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 @Jaypro I am not sure how you could argue she isn't... The Tom Brady of waterskiing :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 18, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted July 18, 2019 @Jaypro The only other person even in the discussion for "most domination vs. peers" is Andy Mapple. Hard to choose between those two, but I am definitely starting to lean toward Regina! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 75Tique Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 My all time favorite training/inspiration video. My contention, I think probably pretty much broadly shared, is that great women skiers are probably better form skiers than men, since men can rely more on their strength to muscle through the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jercrane Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 @75Tique yes! I think I have watched that like 107 times by now and freeze framed every meter of the course Given I am "not tall" I much prefer getting technique inspiration from Regina than the big boys like CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Awesome skiing for sure! It was awesome standing on the shoreline at Lymanland watching Regina ski all weekend, especially her 4-1/2@41 and 4@41 (two different drivers). I had already seen the boat path video for the 4-1/2@41. This video was the basis for my comments in the other thread that the prop wash in this video never comes close to touching any boat guides, versus the screenshots from somewhere else that were posted by @Horton that showed the prop wash bouncing from left boat guide to right boat guide to left boat guide, and so on - with the skier. No zig-zagging here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Soooo once again clearly PROP WASH IS NOT AN INDICATOR OF PYLON LOCATION That is all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 @jayski In the other thread, that opinion was clearly disagreed with. Yes, pylon matters. But, prop wash IS an indication of boat path. And, prop wash engulfing boat guides and swapping side to side with the skier is not good driving. Or, not the best driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lars Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Is it just me or does it look like she is narrow on 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Wrong frame. Advance to frame to show front boot and buoy. She got it. 4-1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 18, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted July 18, 2019 Hm. Should I quit my current life and instead follow Regina around so that I can be there when she runs the whole damn pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 @Than_Bogan. It's coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Prop wash without the pylon video is meaningless. In her case (and most high end skiers), if your prop wash is not getting blown to the bouy side, then you have let the boat get pulled to the bouy side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller EricKelley Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 Great skiing. Unbelievable. Good driving Lyman. I call 4 though. I am part Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 18, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 18, 2019 Chad was driving Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 What a skier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 How many WR's has Chad pulled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 18, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 consecutive I think Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lkb Posted July 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 18, 2019 How is the end course video actually evaluated to see if it’s in tolerance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 10.25? Oh 41 off. Ok that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 And, back to the main subject... Congrats Regina on your outstanding skiing, and yet another World Record!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Booze Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Than_Bogan - Chad was the driver...but I was the dock starter! LOL Honorable mention for Lyman who drove the next day when she got 4.0 again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller EricKelley Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 Got clarification that the video posted does not include the frame where 5 ball is in between the bindings. When video is viewed at more frames per second the video shows the ball inside ski. That girl is tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Booze Regina acknowledged that the dock starter gave her the confidence she needed to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 Looked pretty close as to whether she got back in the buoy line, with line control. Surprised they gave her 4 1/2. 4 1/4 would have still been a new record. As good as Whitney and Manon are, makes Reginas dominance that much more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 19, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted July 19, 2019 @ScottScott At 41 off, it is impossible to NOT cross the 1/2 point line if you hold the handle even for an instant. And I'm not sure what you mean about "line control" -- that is not required for 1/2s afaik. At -41, 1/4 can only occur combined with a massive outbound wipe-out. And that's more likely to be no buoy at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobH Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I checked with Rodger Logan (TC for the tournament) and Jerry Jackson, who approved the record application and sent it to IWWF. The video that's attached at the beginning of this thread is missing quite a few frames and appears to show that she only got 4. Both Roger and Jerry affirmed (from original video with no missing frames) that Regina did get outside the buoy for the 4 1/2 score. World records are reviewed by the TC for the tournament, then by Jerry, prior to being submitted. Then an IWWF panel of multiple judges review the records before approval. Boat path, skier video from the boat, along with rope measurements and all the other data have to meet record specs. Regina earned the new record. She got around the buoy and boat path was in spec. I'll try to get a good copy of the video from Bob Corson. If he sends, I'll forward to Horton for re-posting. Congrats to Regina!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 Why do we get to see videos with missing frames? Congrats to Regina! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 19, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted July 19, 2019 I always thought that only the boat path gets review and the rope and handle get measured. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller elr Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 Regina: Congratulations! BOS: Why do we always “eat our own?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @elr I don't think people are eating their own...just trying to understand the intricacies of setting records we will likely never see in person, never mind accomplishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterSkier12 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 We were there b/t 4 and 5 ball, incredible to watch!!! Congrats Regina! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @MS no, boat video is required and therefore the boat video is reviewed to make sure she actually got outside the buoys, where she lost the handle, where she fell, etc. Also the survey is reviewed to be sure everything is in line with class R specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @BobH all you said is correct in terms of review but don't forget that there is also a review by AWSA to verify any US records. Clearly it makes sense that if it passes IWWF then it's valid in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lars Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 thank you @EricKelley and @BobH for clarifying the video on the site does not have all the frames! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 Awesome job Regina! The Best of All Time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 19, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted July 19, 2019 @klindy is that after the appointed judges on site score the pass and review? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @MS the score at the tournament and what's in the books may not be the same as what's approved (or disproved) in a record review. A few years ago at a July 4 tournament in TX Regina ran what sure looked like 3.5@10.25. The majority score at the tournament was 3-1/2 and we looked over that video ten way from Sunday in every way possible. Ultimately the record application was submitted with what was called at the tournament (3-1/2). However the record was denied because the score was reduced to 3 after the boat video review. This happens much more often in tricks where the event judges calling credit/no credit don't agree with the record review. Often times a trick would be changed to no credit and the score reduced in the record review. However that does NOT change the score at that tournament or any standings at the tournament. In essence the record review is a clean slate review of what happened and the scores do not have to match what the judges at the tournament decided. Think about it, there would be no need for a record review in tricks or jump if the score couldn't change after the tournament. Same with slalom now that a boat video is required for class R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Andre Can simply be video compression. Render the same video 3 different times on the same machine and you might have 3 different frames. As good as our interwebs have become you still don't usually get full uncompressed videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @MS Here's the video of the pass @klindy referred to. I was the boat judge for that one and continued to see the orange buoy as her ski passed by in real time. The IWWF review ultimately decided she more than grazed y he buoy. This video includes some stop frame at the end with all the frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 19, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Kelvin Looks like correct call there? I mean obviously anybody is gonna call that 3.5 in real time, but if you have the video then it's 3. Or is there further room for debate? (That's a serious question: I'm always interested in learning more about rules and interpretations.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 @Kelvin thanks. And that video was shot at a 60 frame per second frame rate which is twice what’s typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 19, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted July 19, 2019 Thank @klindy I guess I’m due for clinic but haven’t been to an event since fall 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 19, 2019 The fact she does this AND tricks AND jumps with the best of them while working full time makes her the most dominant watersports athlete in history IMO. Who else throughout history could say they do that and have the results she has? And you guys are dorks. How many of you are JFK conspiracy nuts? Congrats @Rjaquess on an unreal accomplishment! Congrats @Chad_Scott on another record with you at the helm of the TXi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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