Peterhead Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Looking into advice on buying a new ski, I have a 1990 O'Brien world team and the bindings are pretty beat up and want to replace with whole new ski. I'm an aggressive advanced skier and love my ski but think it's very old new ones must be alot better but want to make the right purchase. I'm looking at a radar butter knife but seems like it's a beginner and I'm not that but also don't want to pay crazy money for a ski. I should ski a 67 but mine is a 69 also looking for recommendations should I stay 69 or goto what I should ski? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted July 23, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 23, 2019 What is your height and weight and what speed and line length do you ski at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted July 23, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 23, 2019 Got any video of you skiing? In my opinion, that's priceless information for the pros on this forum to really be able to recommend something good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 That's a good idea but I have no video, I cut hard every turn and bruise my calf in the wash. I'm 5'8 180 lbs have been skiing over 30 years since I was 14 on the obrien I am so used to it although it's old I find it turns great but the newer binding just don't fit the mounting holes and I would like something new. Getting up isn't ever a problem for me so not sure I need the wider ski. Thanks for the comments so far I will try and post a video soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted July 24, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2019 It sounds like a 67" Radar Senate could be perfect for you @Peterhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Thanks for your advice, I do like the Senate it's a higher price is all but don't want to spend good money on something I don't enjoy. I am just a free water skier no courses but I do ski like I'm on a course. My ski being 29 years old I kinda think any decent new ski would be an improvement but have never skied anything else. The O'Brien siege I think it is also looks nice but radar seems to be very popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted July 24, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2019 @Peterhead I learned on a world team, my second ski was a siege. Neither were new and that was..... 27 years ago. Ditch your gateway pc and check out the new stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted July 24, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2019 @peterhead get a slightly used senate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibrain Posted July 24, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2019 @Peterhead I got a World Team in 1976 and we still have it in the shed back home. And I got a newer ski in 1981 that was a way better ski so you are overdue. I would recommend something like this D3 Custom 2 for $150. It’s looks like it’s in great shape. It is going to turn better, be more aggressive if you want to, AND it will be forgiving (easy, no surprises) to ski on. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=36896. Then, because you are used to rubber bindings, I would order a set of rubber bindings from Wileyski.com to mount on there. Or maybe you can find some used ones on ski-it-again as well. This familiar to you, type binding will be more supportive than than what you have, but not be such a big change that it will feel weird. Package deal should keep you around $400 and you will be a happy man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Thanks guys I have been trying to find used skis but I'm in Toronto Canada and there's not too much to choose from up here or that I have found yet. Shipping from the u.s is pretty heavy may just have to buy new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibrain Posted July 24, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2019 There is a thread on here “gear for sale in Canada” search for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Thank you @skibrian I found that have been looking there now, not as good as the site you showed me. Hard to tell if things are sold here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibrain Posted July 24, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2019 You might just try personal message to sellers. Good luck. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobonator Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Give McClintocks in Cambridge a call. They will be looking to clear out their 2019 inventory soon. You might be able to grab a demo senate alloy at a good price, and only 35 mins from Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Thanks for everybody's help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted July 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2019 @Peterhead please check out the position paper I just wrote. I think it might very well be relevant to you before you go make a costly mistake. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-NiENHZt0sC7WDBaeVk6QK9OJzQ4-DYISGE1h_PPjPI/edit?usp=sharing Also, I disagree with @skibrain about the bindings. When I upgraded my ski in 2012 from my old 1997 ski, that was actually my #1 favorite part was moving from those old darn rubber bindings to a nice comfy lace up. Don't discount the possibility that there may very well be a great reason that 95% of skis sold with bindings these days are sold with lace-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted July 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2019 Very surprised that nobody has mentioned the HO Omni ? I am led to belive that there is a number of people really enjoying that ski with some fairly good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wski247 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 You can get great slightly used ski on skiitagain.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Thanks for all the help guys, I bought a 2018 radar Senate alloy with vapour boot and rear toe brand new I don't know what to expect but I will be testing it out this weekend can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 26, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2019 Good buy I think you will like it. It may not be love at first ski though. That Vapor boot is much stiffer than the binding on your old ski. It is going to take 3-6 sets likely to get comfortable with it. I went from a Strada boot to that Vapor Carbitex boot and it took me 2 sets before I could get the ski to turn right and that was a much smaller change than you are making. When you pull the liner out of the boot there are some plastic shims around the ankles. You might want to pull those out to start as they make the boot even stiffer. I have pulled mine out and haven't put them back. Be patient and give it some time it is a great ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted August 26, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2019 Nice ski and that boot looks like a Vector to me - I've had a 2 of those and love that boot. I tend to leave the top laces fairly loose so I will come out if i fall. Like Mark said, give the ski several runs before you make a judgement - it takes a few rides to figure out where you need to stand on a new ski. You also might consider moving the RTP up one hole so it's closer to the front boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller quinne Posted August 26, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2019 @Peterhead if your leg continues to take abuse from the spray you can get a neoprene leg guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted August 26, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2019 @quinne @Peterhead Don't ever go with a spray leg guard. Those things come with tampons and make you known as the pansy of your lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Thanks you are correct vector binding, my bad. Thanks I will take it easy for a few sets to get used to it I do think it will take some getting used to as the boot feels way differant. I was thinking of moving the rear boot all the way forward at first so on that recomedation I will move it up before I ski it thanks everybody for the advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller quinne Posted August 26, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2019 @ballsohard I'm okay with being the pansy on the lake. My shin isn't black and blue anymore... And I imagine that I care more about how my legs look in a skirt than you do! (Truth be told, I haven't actually tried going without the spray guard in over two years. Since then my ski and my form have improved substantially so I might not even need it anymore.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted August 26, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2019 After a couple of sets your calves will toughen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted August 26, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2019 Looks awesome. Yup. Give it time. Coming off of old skis, there is definitely an acclimation period to the feel of a new senate. But it will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 So had my first and second on the ski yesterday, it actually felt great I'm not there yet will take a few more passes to be totally comfortable. All in all already I will say it's a way better ski and I look forward to getting better every time out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterhead Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Feeling better and better every time out but unfortunately I think this was the last ski of the year for me. But the radar Senate alloy is an awesome ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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