EP54: Ski Talk with Elizabeth Montavon (Part 1)

[Horton]

https://link.chtbl.com/TWSP-EP54-BOS

 

 

[The_MS]

I thought BOS was only M4-5-6 territory and she was insta gram?

[Horton]

@The_MS

[Than_Bogan]

An hour and 15 minutes is waay more than I'm usually willing to dedicate to something like this, but I might just make the time. Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I kinda liked her "F U Old Men" attitude! And she sure seemed joyous when she finished well (2nd?) at a pro tour event I was watching. Makes me curious to find out more.

[dvskier]

It sounds like she had a tough time at Rollins. She should’ve gone to Alabama at first, likely it would’ve turned out much better. Tough lady to be sure.

[The_MS]

If your not a pro skier that is better then me, just shut the F up and don’t tell me what I’m doing wrong cause you don’t know crap.

[sisland31]

@The_MS You seem like you'd be a lot of fun at parties :#

[The_MS]

@sisland31 a few hazy IPAs and you never know what happens

[jayski]

@The_MS or shooters at Rascal's

[The_MS]

@jayski ski really good the next morning also

[Luzz]

@Than_Bogan I'm honored. Sounds you are something like 72hrs or so behind on content :p

[Killer]

Great interview. Very intense athlete, we can use more of that dedication and intensity in the sport.

[Killer]

I feel old posting this @ms but what the hell,it's classic Jerry, classic!

[LOTW]

These are all really great, thank you!

I've been holding off on listening to the latest few as I'll need something for those long walks with the hound on our frozen lake. These keep me going and motivated.

[BraceMaker]

@The_MS imo misfire on the humor steer into the skid.

 

Good job on this one @Luzz

[skispray]

Elizabeth definitely seems to know how to promote herself. It’s refreshing to have someone on the pro scene with a bit of intensity and a story that’s a little different than what’s typical.

[The_MS]

Do I need to repost the insta gram video for y’all?

[wawaskr]

It is an interesting study in psychology.

[Than_Bogan]

I watched the instagram. I found myself wondering how I'd react if one of the girls I coach had posted it. My first thought would have been "Heal yeah! This kid has got some FIRE. Let's get to WORK!" Then I would have had a "little talk" with her that she might want to be more careful because some people might not interpret it the same way I did. :)

[Than_Bogan]

@Luzz I feel like I'm 72 hours behind on a lot of things...

[The_MS]

Exactly the type of athlete you want to sponsor.

Not sure why Goode would sponsor someone that has a podie mouth like that. She can sure toss the F word around

[Horton]

@The_MS I think you and young Miss Montavon need to settle this on the water. Unless you do not think you can take her. Would be fun to see 3 rounds with the same boat and driver Class L/R

[The_MS]

I’m in

[RichardDoane]

@The_MS mark your calendar for the 3rd weekend in August, 2021, she'll be at the Hilltop Pro-Am, you two can both be interviewed by @MarcusBrown detailing the back story on your "personal competition" within the event.

 

Hazy IPA's will be on me!

[BraceMaker]

@Than_Bogan follow her on the gram and you'll be up to date on the ongoings at a moments notice. Not much actual ski videos this time of year though.

[jayski]

@Horton @MS would win, he wouldn't even have to ski to his full potential...

 

All this talk is gonna ignite another tirade filled insta post again :D

[MISkier]

The webcast of the matchup, including the trash talk on the dock, will be must-see.

[Horton]

@jayski I don't know. I see a few big scores for @The_MS but not a lot of them from class L/R and Shreveport doesn't count.

[The_MS]

@Horton That was my first event in 3 years and I was injured

[Freddie Winter]

 

[Stefan]

In tennis, "Battle of the Sexes" describes various exhibition matches played between a man and a woman, or a doubles match between two men and two women in one case. The term is most famously used for an internationally televised match in 1973 held at the Houston Astrodome between 55 year-old Bobby Riggs and 29 year-old Billie Jean King,[4] which King won in three sets.[2][5] The match was viewed by an estimated fifty million people in the United States and ninety million worldwide.[6] King's win is considered a milestone in public acceptance of women's tennis.

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[jayski]

@The_MS would have it won on the dock, mental fortitude...

[skispray]

@MS so a girl can’t drop the F Bomb without people thinking she doesn’t deserve a sponsorship but... well, let’s think about what happens off the water for some men’s slalom skiers who still have plenty of sponsors and then, hopefully after considering, you won’t say nonsense like that anymore.

[The_MS]

I don’t have any kids for anybody to look up to so I guess I don’t care. I say worse then that daily but then again, I don’t have sponsors. I know that you would never hear anything like that out of Reginas mouth on social media

[Oldkier]

This is going to be epic!

[RAWSki]

My money might be on EM but I will be there cheering them both on and icing down plenty of unique brews for @The_MS

[jcamp]

More webcast time for old guys. EXACTLY what the sport of water skiing needs!

[zach_skis24]

 

[sisland31]

@The_MS

 

[jjackkrash]

Is there a way to automatically link this thread to help answer every other "why can't we grow the sport" and "why can't we attract new and younger participants" threads? It would save a lot of time.

[The_MS]

All you milinials go to Instagram cause BOS is M4-5-6-7-8 territory.

[zach_skis24]

 

 

[The_MS]

In all seriousness, BOS is the most all inclusive place on the planet. All are welcome and lots of people are better skiers because of it

[scuppers]

All the rest of us nobody’s on here would sure like to hear the back story to all this.

Any chance of that happening?

[sisland31]

@The_MS

 

[teammalibu]

Back story MS+Good Beer = Trouble

[The_MS]

@scuppers She had a post on Instagram a few months back totally bashing M4-5-6-7 guys and BOS saying we are to stay off Instagram and stay on BOS where all the old folks hang out. She won’t listen to anybody that is not a better skier then her cause they don’t know crap. Tossed about 3-4 F Us in there and told everyone to calm the F down.

[EM_]

@The_MS

 

1. I live in south Florida. 80% of who I ski with is M4,5,6,7. Most of what I said was direct quotes FROM THEM about their own age divisions and Instagram, BOS, being “tip up”, etc. Furthermore, I did what I did for 2 reasons: 1) to see how that narrative would change specific social metrics within slices of the water ski demographic. You performed beautifully, and we appreciate your feedback. 2) As an inside joke with all my ski buddies, which you clearly did not pick up on. How unfortunate.

2. It’s only common sense that we should be trying to learn from pro men exclusively at this time, as that is the demographic that consistently out performs everyone else as a whole. Math doesn’t lie.

3. I swear because that’s authentically how I communicate. I’m not for everyone, and I have no intention of changing that.

4. I did a podcast where I talked about how I was bullied in waterskiing and the impact that had on my mental health and whether or not I was going to continue skiing.

 

Then I get bashed by water skiers in an online thread pertaining to that podcast.

 

Do you see the problem here?

 

It’s painfully obvious that we’ve lost the beautifully human element of vulnerability within our sport. It’s very difficult to grow any industry that people cannot connect or relate to on a human or emotional level.

 

Every time we bicker amongst ourselves the enemy wins — the enemy being other sports who ARE getting money, sponsors, and attention.

 

So yes, I will continue to be loud, disruptive, and HUMAN, all in the hopes of generating SOME attention for our sport. If you are offended by my WILLINGNESS to try, I seriously question your “passion” for the sport.

 

We are on the same side.

[ForrestGump]

@EM_

 

@The_MS is like my English Bulldog. Kind of cute. But drools on the carpet and you have to yell "Dammit dog!" at him about 3 times a day.

[Than_Bogan]

Wait -- water skiers are humans? That doesn't sound right.

 

Being a bit more serious, I've always noticed that people who annoy each other the most actually are very similar. It's sibling rivalry on a more general scale. Although I don't know him in person, his long history on BOS tells me that @The_MS likes to stir up trouble and is always happy to speak his mind. So when @EM_ says she's on the same side, that might be even more true than she meant!?

 

Crud -- now I really gotta listen to that podcast. Need ... more ... hours ... in ... day.