Guest Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I'm in Michigan, looking for an older Mastercraft Prostar to purchase. Specifically, the '93-'96 190(if a '93 it must be the LT-1 engine, or the '93(LT-1)-'95 205- no '96 as the hull on the 205 changed in '96. Ideally with >700 hours and in good shape exterior and interior wise, although we have a great upholstery person so we could possibly work with that. Please help! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 To clarify you are only looking for LT-1 boats regardless of model year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruityrumdrinks Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 No, the 93's weren't fuel injected so if it's a '93 then it needs to be the LT-1, otherwise just the fuel injected engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 25, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 25, 2021 Don't count out the Mastercraft Sportster. I ski behind one in MN with the LT-1. Phenomenal ski boat with amazing wakes at all lines and speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 @fruityrumdrinks are you on Facebook? There are quite a few on marketplace. I wish I was don’t with my 1991 Ilmor conversion project, I’d sell you a 1991 with Zero Off :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 I own the unicorn you seek. '94, 350 hours, power slot, bimini, stargazer, amazing shape. Not sure I'd sell, but everything has it's price. I'm in WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 25, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 25, 2021 I got the impression that the ask was for a 205, as the original post mentions the 205 hull change in 1996. Edited. I re-read it and the ask is for either a 190 or a 205, but pre-1996 if a 205. In both cases, want the fuel injection. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 25, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 25, 2021 Note that the hull changed on the 190 in 1995. You are considering 1995 and 1996 in your range for the 190. And, if that is OK, the 1997 will also have the same hull as the 1995 and 1996. Agree with @Wish on the SportStar. Same hull, just less frills. They made that particular hull into 2000, I believe. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruityrumdrinks Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 From my research the hull did change on the '96, but only the 205, not the 190. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 The 190 got new hulls in 91, 95, and 98. The 91-94 hull is well loved, as is the 95-97 but they are different boats, the 95-97 has great wakes, improved tracking, and less spray. But I cannot stand the window, it has 2 curved panels with a split down the middle as opposed to the 91-4 that has the flat center. That curve gives you weird distortion towards the edges and the mirror is in a weird spot. That's a very minor complaint but would push me towards the 94>95-97 The 205 is on a different development path and was new in 91, updated for 96, but that hull stayed the same till 2000. I've actually never been behind the older one but the 96-2000 direct drive versions I've been impressed by. Not the V-drive that's just the same thing as the early x-star and if you've ever slalomed behind an x2 its just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 25, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 25, 2021 MasterCraft TeamTalk has the hull histories. A user named C36 has done incredible threads on the 190 and the 205. Here is snapshot of their thread on the 1995-1997 Prostar 190, which includes the SportStar. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jepski Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 Not sure if you want LT-1 b/c of HP or efi? The bolt on marine version of the Holley Sniper FI conversion kit has received favorable reviews from those who have converted. If you are eliminating carbed boats b/c you want EFI - that would open up a lot of boats in the used market. I'm old school, my '92 205 w/ 351h.o. and Holley carb and Acme 541 gets the job done quite nicely. Doesn't have throttle response of efi and she takes a minute or two to warm up....but at 60y/o...so do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 25, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 25, 2021 Here are the threads from TeamTalk with the overall history of the 190/197, the history of the specific 1995-1997 version, and the history of the 205. These are very informative and detailed. I owned a 2000 Prostar 205 and it was a very good boat. It had the usual 22 off bump, but the rest of the line lengths were great. Have some video of some passes through the course, if desired. I'd still have it, if I didn't need to get a Zero Off boat. Regarding the LT-1, I thought I had heard some concerns about getting parts for that engine as well as some oil consumption issues. Others may know more. I would still recommend an EFI engine, though. https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/showthread.php?t=29236 https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/showthread.php?t=14622 https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/showthread.php?t=15198 Hope that helps. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruityrumdrinks Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Great information. Thanks! I guess my unicorn is becoming more of a unicorn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruityrumdrinks Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 sooo.....'94 190 with an EFI! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 All 94 190’s will be EFI. Not unicorn. 93 with LT1 will be EFI. Closer to unicorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cent Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 94MC efi are nice boats. My brother has one he got from me after I had about 25 hours on it in 94 that now has 247 hours. Sweet boat he just does not ski often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 I love my '94. I ski the same as behind our old '15 for a fraction of the price:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 25, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 25, 2021 And, as a reminder, ski and drive it before you buy it, if at all possible. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 definitely before you buy....... @swc5150 boat above is gorgeous. He says in WI but registration says TN. Must be a recent acquisition. As I recall there were a couple of very sweet 93-94's that moved last year, before things got super crazy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 Yes, it now has a WI registration. I wired the money to the seller before skiing, driving or even laying eyes on it. The first time I saw it was when the uship guy dropped it off at my house. I had to have it, and wasn't disappointed :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 My ‘93 with the 1:1 transmission and 351 h.o. was incredible. Never had a need for efi or the powerslot. Buttery wakes and enough power to rip your arms off. Installed stargazer and Bob’s yer uncle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ETskier Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 Missing the boat so to speak. The 93 190 Stars and Stripes were awesome. Unicorns, in that current owners don't want to part with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 @ETskier The 1993 Stars and Stripes 190 was a special package which was unlimited. The real unicorn is the 1993 ProStar 190 25th Anniversary Limited Edition - only 25 produced. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ETskier Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted August 29, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 29, 2021 @fruityrumdrinks you should contact @MarkTimm his girlfriend might consider selling you her unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller nam1975 Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 Mint 94 on Chippewa Lake Ohio. Facebook market place. Not sure if EFI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 @nam1975 if its a 94 mastercraft its efi unless someone dorked with it and installed a carb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cent Posted August 31, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2021 EFI was standard in 94. I was a MC dealer at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted September 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2021 Funny... my wife sold a couple of household things on FB Saturday, and the buyer offered to buy my '94 unicorn sitting in our garage when he saw it. Then yesterday at the boat landing, a dude took notice and walked over to admire. He said his buddy just paid $22k for a '94 he found in TN. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ETskier Posted September 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2021 We're the Mastercraft EFIs of the day throttle bodies or real ported fuel injection? My 94 Nautique was throttle body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cent Posted September 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2021 94 MC was throttle body. Multi ported was available in 95 on the Sammy Duvall MC Owned both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted September 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2021 Gorgeous 93 Stars & Stripes , blue flake , about 485 hrs, all documentation, just sold here in Arkansas . $16.5k . Was on SIA 1 day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted September 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2021 @ETskier most were TBI for a while sans the MPI LT1 option. MCX 350 was MPI and not sure about some of the other engine options along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ronny61 Posted September 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2021 https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=61435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted September 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2021 LTI was MPI and available in '93. Standard was TBI in '94. Wow that's a nice MC, but that's some serious money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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