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2024 Radar Vapor Review - first rides


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I mounted up the pretty new Radar this week & I took my first real rides on it today. This review is going to be fun. The ski is unique. I think I am going to like it a lot.

The darn thing is FAST and when I say fast I mean low effort everywhere. It is not overly fast at apex but it is super fast through centerline or at least that is my first impression. 

With the settings I am starting with, OnSide turns are ridiculous.   

It is hard not to get super excited when a ski feels great for the first few rides.  

Say tuned.

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@jjackkrash I got these numbers from somebody who already had some experience on the ski. I not saying those numbers are ideal but I did like them better than the stock long shallow. You never know after some time on the ski I might migrate back to the stock long shallow. I'm just getting started.

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@Horton be good to get your thoughts on how it compares to the outgoing model. When I got the 22 it instantly felt a little slower/ smoother /longer than my previous Vapor, a 2017, which was a rocket ship so was slightly disappointed.

If it’s a mega upgrade I’m going to have an expensive dilemma 🙄

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1 hour ago, whitem71 said:

@Horton be good to get your thoughts on how it compares to the outgoing model. When I got the 22 it instantly felt a little slower/ smoother /longer than my previous Vapor, a 2017, which was a rocket ship so was slightly disappointed.

If it’s a mega upgrade I’m going to have an expensive dilemma 🙄

friend of mine is riding the 2024 and finding it noticeably faster side to side than the 22/23 shape.

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Last few weeks have been a blur of tournaments and travel. Not the best way to get dialed on a new ski.

Anyway, I have 3 rides so far this week at home behind my normal boat and things are clicking. I am nowhere near knowing the exact details of the final review but the ski is really good. Everything is easy. I have dropped the extra 32 I normally before shortening the line because 32 and 35 are so darn effortless. ( Instead of starting at 28, I almost always run two 32s and then shorten ) 

 

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Wow this thing wants to turn!  Got a quick set in today.  Stock L/S shallow settings.   May try S/D but started where recommended.   More reports later but right up to my average of mid -32 .  Less effort in turns and fast across course.  

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it seems like the ski is sensitive to boot placement. I've been exploring, forwards and backwards a 10th of an inch at a time. I'm not very far from stock but a little bit makes a big difference.

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I moved back to Bf 29 3/8s on my 66.  still experimenting.  Was on L/S settings,  just switched to S/Dish. Haven't ridden it yet but will give it a go tomorrow.  Are you still split in the middle @Horton? I'll try the S/D with 29 1/4 next.  It's an interesting ride for sure.  

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There are some issues with the skiing but darn the ski makes space
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@Horton I’ve been on a 24 Vapor PB 67” for about a month now. I was on an NRG R2 before this and felt like that ski made some serious angle but would just stall at the finish of the turn, kind of like a hockey stop. I love the way the Vapor moves through turns without losing much speed. Here’s my question. I’m running pretty close to the factory S/D settings (Bf 29.75”) and getting a lot of hop at my 22off opener, especially behind the Nautique. I often find myself on the tail on my onside. Obviously I have room to improve my stance/alignment. But I’m curious about trying the factory L/S settings since that would put my Bf at 30”, thinking that may get me over the ski a little more. I’m just not much of a tweaker so I figured I’d get your opinion before making a change.

 

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@ColeGiacopuzzi would you happen to know where a tfactor should be on a 66”? I’m currently using a radar hardshell at 29 1/4 (the stock short deep settings). 
My problem is I don’t know how my actual heel position will compare with the tfactor

 

and maybe I should try the long deep settings I saw on here somewhere anyway. Appreciate the input.  

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@lkb I would put it at 29 1/4 and see how it feels and then make an adjustment from there. Not worth guessing where to put it. 
 

I’d do the boot change first for a while so you can adjust to that and aren’t changing a whole bunch of things at once. then give those settings a try down the road 👍🏽

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